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Switch on, the brake pedal needs to be depressed and held down until you open and close the bleeder valve, if everything is working correctly fluid will squirt out of the bleeder valve under pressure, as soon as you see fluid coming out close the bleeder valve ASAP, no air will get in the system if you do it this way, unless you let the reservoir get too low.

Also you still haven't said if the rotor will turn or not, we need to know this to determine if the caliper is seized or not??

Okay great, that sounds pretty straightforward. I should have my assistant the next couple of days so we will see if those rotors turn.


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Switch on, the brake pedal needs to be depressed and held down until you open and close the bleeder valve, if everything is working correctly fluid will squirt out of the bleeder valve under pressure, as soon as you see fluid coming out close the bleeder valve ASAP, no air will get in the system if you do it this way, unless you let the reservoir get too low.

Also you still haven't said if the rotor will turn or not, we need to know this to determine if the caliper is seized or not??

So it looks like I have brake fluid coming out of both bleeders. Got out there tonight and sure enough with the ignition on and brake pedal down, brake fluid came flowing out, not trickling at all!



I also tried the other nut on the caliper and got fluid there too.

Here is a pic of the other rotor. I see more markings on this side so not sure. Next step is to check and see if rotors will turn.





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So it looks like I have brake fluid coming out of both bleeders. Got out there tonight and sure enough with the ignition on and brake pedal down, brake fluid came flowing out, not trickling at all!



I also tried the other nut on the caliper and got fluid there too.

Here is a pic of the other rotor. I see more markings on this side so not sure. Next step is to check and see if rotors will turn.





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That's great, and that other rotor looks fine, the "markings" are normal wear, most likely a small stone or some kind of road debris got stuck by the brake pad and caused the minor "markings" you're seeing, so now just try turning the rotor by hand without depressing the brake pedal, if you can that's great and then press the brake pedal and see if it stops you from being able to turn it, it you can't then that great as well, if both sides are the same and you can turn them and they can't be turned with the brake pedal depressed then it means the calipers aren't seized and your brakes are fine!
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That's great, and that other rotor looks fine, the "markings" are normal wear, most likely a small stone or some kind of road debris got stuck by the brake pad and caused the minor "markings" you're seeing, so now just try turning the rotor by hand without depressing the brake pedal, if you can that's great and then press the brake pedal and see if it stops you from being able to turn it, it you can't then that great as well, if both sides are the same and you can turn them and they can't be turned with the brake pedal depressed then it means the calipers aren't seized and your brakes are fine!

I’m assuming I have to take the tires off and turn the rotor by hand? Just to make sure, I need to jack up both rear wheels, chock the front tires, put in neutral and then turn the wheel?


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I’m assuming I have to take the tires off and turn the rotor by hand? Just to make sure, I need to jack up both rear wheels, chock the front tires, put in neutral and then turn the wheel?


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There’s no need to remove the wheels/tires, it will also be safer in case the jack falls over, it will be easier to turn with them on, other than that yes, on the rest, don’t forget to see if the brakes can stop you from turning the wheels.
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There’s no need to remove the wheels/tires, it will also be safer in case the jack falls over, it will be easier to turn with them on, other than that yes, on the rest, don’t forget to see if the brakes can stop you from turning the wheels.

Okay, so it looks like the brakes are working. Was able to turn both wheels by hand both in park and in neutral. Had my wife hit the brake, and then could not turn either wheel. We tried it a few times and it worked as expected each time. Parking brake works too.

Not sure what to make of what the tech said now. Maybe he was just confused and didn’t know to turn on the ignition.

I had originally wanted him to flush the brake fluid, because they have started feeling softer. The pads look decent front and back, so I thought a fluid change might be needed.


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That's great, I was thinking you would be good but you have to go through the steps to make sure!

Not that all being said, where did you take it too to get the brake fluid flushed?

I will now comment on the "Tech" as we have been calling him, this guy is no "Tech", a true mechanical technician doesn't know it all as far as all specs and procedures, but he does know how to find all that info, they have shop manuals for a reason, no one can remember all the technical details for all makes and models of vehicles, a good Tech will know when he's not familiar with a certain vehicle and go to the shop manual to get the proper procedure/s and technical details, so unless a Tech is specialist on a certain make and model and work on that model often then he will know much of the technical details but still not know it all and will refer to the shop manual.

The worst part about this "Tech" is that he didn't even try and find what was "wrong", when a Tech finds an issue such as he was reporting to you, they should give you solutions and to know what the solution is he would have to find out what was causing the "issue", which in this case as you know isn't even an issue!!

I still want to know generally where this guy works, an independent garage, a Toyota dealership, in his backyard (nothing wrong with this if that the only place you have to do the work, but still be professional about it) you don't have to name the business, unless it is a Toyota dealership and I would then let everyone know so they don't go there??
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That's great, I was thinking you would be good but you have to go through the steps to make sure!

Not that all being said, where did you take it too to get the brake fluid flushed?

I will now comment on the "Tech" as we have been calling him, this guy is no "Tech", a true mechanical technician doesn't know it all as far as all specs and procedures, but he does know how to find all that info, they have shop manuals for a reason, no one can remember all the technical details for all makes and models of vehicles, a good Tech will know when he's not familiar with a certain vehicle and go to the shop manual to get the proper procedure/s and technical details, so unless a Tech is specialist on a certain make and model and work on that model often then he will know much of the technical details but still not know it all and will refer to the shop manual.

The worst part about this "Tech" is that he didn't even try and find what was "wrong", when a Tech finds an issue such as he was reporting to you, they should give you solutions and to know what the solution is he would have to find out what was causing the "issue", which in this case as you know isn't even an issue!!

I still want to know generally where this guy works, an independent garage, a Toyota dealership, in his backyard (nothing wrong with this if that the only place you have to do the work, but still be professional about it) you don't have to name the business, unless it is a Toyota dealership and I would then let everyone know so they don't go there??

I’m not super familiar with this gentleman, but I know he has a really good reputation and based on reviews they do good work. His independent and has his own garage, but perhaps not as experienced as some. He’s a younger fellow too and I wanted to give him a chance. I was hoping he’d be able to troubleshoot it a little further, but it may have been a little beyond his scope.

And you bring up a good point about the differences in makes and models and years, etc. I told him the vehicle model ahead of time just in case.

But admittedly I sort of glad this happened as it gave me an opportunity to learn some more about brakes, especially with your help!! I sincerely appreciate you being so responsive. I don’t have a lot folks I can lean on for mechanic advice. Hopefully one day I’ll get to help someone else too.

Working on these rigs is a hobby to me and I really enjoy it most of the time LOL

Next up I suppose will be DIY brake flush.


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I’m not super familiar with this gentleman, but I know he has a really good reputation and based on reviews they do good work. His independent and has his own garage, but perhaps not as experienced as some. He’s a younger fellow too and I wanted to give him a chance. I was hoping he’d be able to troubleshoot it a little further, but it may have been a little beyond his scope.

And you bring up a good point about the differences in makes and models and years, etc. I told him the vehicle model ahead of time just in case.

But admittedly I sort of glad this happened as it gave me an opportunity to learn some more about brakes, especially with your help!! I sincerely appreciate you being so responsive. I don’t have a lot folks I can lean on for mechanic advice. Hopefully one day I’ll get to help someone else too.

Working on these rigs is a hobby to me and I really enjoy it most of the time LOL

Next up I suppose will be DIY brake flush.


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