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Old 06-23-2022, 09:44 PM #1
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Right Side Ladder

I recently acquired some body damage on the right rear quarter just above the bumper cover on my 08 and figured I’ve been wanting to put a ladder on it, why not mount it there and it can hide the dent. Window seal is still good, door seal is still good it’s purely cosmetic. A quick googling shows only rear-mount ladders, does anyone know of one that mounts to the side, the right (passenger) side specifically?
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I recently acquired some body damage on the right rear quarter just above the bumper cover on my 08 and figured Iíve been wanting to put a ladder on it, why not mount it there and it can hide the dent. Window seal is still good, door seal is still good itís purely cosmetic. A quick googling shows only rear-mount ladders, does anyone know of one that mounts to the side, the right (passenger) side specifically?
My best guess is that you would have to have it custom made, all ladders I have seen are mounted on the rear, and for a good reason, mounting one on the side of a vehicle puts it into a possible collision with other vehicles.
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you're not going to find an off-the-shelf ladder that isn't for the rear. Custom fab is going to be the only way to go. What are you running for a bumper and roofrack? Also, what is your plan on attaching the ladder to the rig? I don't think the quarter is strong enough to mount a ladder to if you're actually planning on using it. if you mount it to the bumper, which would be preferred, you can't tie into the body since there is movement there when you're off road. I guess It probably wouldn't really hurt anything, just put some strain on the attachment points.. but yea, something to think about.
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I did come across this from earlier, just as a visual reference. New Southern Style Speed Rear Bumper Prototype Installed

but whatever you do... don't have a floating 4 foot ladder only bumper mounted if you plan on doing any sort of off-road near trees. That is a busted quarter glass waiting to happen.
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The thinking was to get an aluminum bumper with eye lugs along with a proper roof rack with lugs to match and mount the ladder between them. I see overlanding rigs with fuel and water tanks mounted outside the rear quarter windows, not much different if the profile is kept tight.
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I recently acquired some body damage on the right rear quarter just above the bumper cover on my 08 and figured Iíve been wanting to put a ladder on it, why not mount it there and it can hide the dent. Window seal is still good, door seal is still good itís purely cosmetic. A quick googling shows only rear-mount ladders, does anyone know of one that mounts to the side, the right (passenger) side specifically?
I found this but can't give you any details, I just wanted to see the requirements to fit a rear ladder, it sounds cool!

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I found this but can't give you any details, I just wanted to see the requirements to fit a rear ladder, it sounds cool!

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Dude thatís perfect! Took a little digging through the Pinterest links but I got there in the end.
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The thinking was to get an aluminum bumper with eye lugs along with a proper roof rack with lugs to match and mount the ladder between them. I see overlanding rigs with fuel and water tanks mounted outside the rear quarter windows, not much different if the profile is kept tight.
The main problem with mounting to both the bumper and the roof rack is that the body/roof is floating on the frame and bumper would be solid mounted to the frame. Despite these frames being fully boxed, the frame itself still does flex a decent amount relative to the body. This would lead to a fatigue failure of the roof mounts of the rack fairly shortly.

As far as profile, depends on where you're wheeling. Any extra gizmos on the side are generally gonna be tree snaggers in the midwest and east, but out west you'd be fine
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^^ that was my point too.. If you're not planning on doing any sort of wheeling you probably wont see much flex. However, I can tell you with certainty that I can quite easily close up a 1/2-1" bumper-to-fender gap when fully flexed on an obstacle... the body with relation to frame moves ALOT.


Having overlanding gear stuck to the side overhanging the fender is one thing. I'm running a similar setup with rear molle panels over the rear quarter glass. One side houses my fuel the other my traction boards. I have snagged these on trees, it isn't ideal for tight trails but use for regular camping trips. My hole point on a floating 4ft ladder hanging up from the bumper and terminating AT the quarter glass is that even a minor lean onto a tree or dirt v-notch will guarantee a busted out glass.
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The main problem with mounting to both the bumper and the roof rack is that the body/roof is floating on the frame and bumper would be solid mounted to the frame. Despite these frames being fully boxed, the frame itself still does flex a decent amount relative to the body. This would lead to a fatigue failure of the roof mounts of the rack fairly shortly.

As far as profile, depends on where you're wheeling. Any extra gizmos on the side are generally gonna be tree snaggers in the midwest and east, but out west you'd be fine
According to the details on the product page, the upper connection point (at the rack) allows for some flexibility to accommodate some body vs frame movement. Maybe not 1-1/2Ē but they acknowledge the risk, and since itís only held by clevis pins itís easy to remove if the rig does get into some tight or rougher trails.
In terms of end use, my Runner is my daily commuter with some jaunts off-road on local open field trails as well as camping and canoe/kayak trips, this isnít a hard trail rig by any stretch. Even having Molle panels & accessories inside or out is more than I am trying to do.
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We did this but its just a beach vehicle. Mount to the existing roof rack.



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