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My 2004 doesn't do this, only around 30 seconds after the key is removed and the windows no longer function, unless the key is inserted and you turn the ignition back on.
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My 1999 Sienna is 45 seconds, key in or out makes no difference
My 2004 T4R SE is 42 seconds, key in or out makes no difference
Works for the sun roof on the Sienna; no sunroof in the T4R
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04-17-2023, 10:05 AM
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My best guess is that this is to help with escaping a submerged vehicle if/when the engine stops running. That would also account for the rear window being the exception.
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The key would be in the ignition and in the running position so the windows would roll as long as the motors would work, but water would eventually short them out. But there wouldn't be any time limit on them.
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Left it unlocked overnight.
Went out in the morning and the windows still work.
Original key fobs and no aftermarket alarm.
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That doesn't sound right.
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My 2004 doesn't do this, only around 30 seconds after the key is removed and the windows no longer function, unless the key is inserted and you turn the ignition back on.
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All of my Honda & Toyotas are/were like this.
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04-18-2023, 10:03 AM
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My 2004 doesn't do this, only around 30 seconds after the key is removed and the windows no longer function, unless the key is inserted and you turn the ignition back on.
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This is how I always felt my ‘07 worked and I just verified it. Maybe the OP’s windows got cross-wired to constant power at some point?
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04-18-2023, 12:02 PM
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Mine is a 2005.
Not even sure how it could be wired different? It's basically a factory vehicle except for the radio.
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04-18-2023, 02:59 PM
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Mine is a 2005.
Not even sure how it could be wired different? It's basically a factory vehicle except for the radio.
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Do you have your owner’s manual? The window operation parameters should be described in there. Could this be one of those selectable things like how the automatic door locks can be configured in different ways? Some can only be changed by a dealer. Other than that, I got nothin’.
EDIT: Screenshot from the ’07 manual. Unless the function changed, the windows should not work hours later without power. Learned something new…the AUTO light on the window switch indicates the windows have power. Is your light always on?
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I don't think the light is always on.. I'll unlock the car and check tonight when it's dark out.
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sounds like someone rewire the relay, giving it power at all times. could be previous owner use to go camping or overland.
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Just an observation on the owner's manual info I posted earlier - I wonder why the window operation duration is 43 seconds after the ignition turns off? Seems weirdly specific.
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It looked like the auto light was on when I opened it up after a few hours, but it doesn't appear to be on when I shut the car off. Weird.
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Mine is a 2005.
Not even sure how it could be wired different? It's basically a factory vehicle except for the radio.
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In your first post you say the side windows will work without the ignition being on, but not the hatch window. My 2004 allows all the windows to roll up or down for about 42 seconds after the ignition is off (before the door is opened) including the hatch window.
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In your first post you say the side windows will work without the ignition being on, but not the hatch window. My 2004 allows all the windows to roll up or down for about 42 seconds after the ignition is off (before the door is opened) including the hatch window.
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Mine too, also the sunroof. Seems the op's truck has some oddities.
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Mine too, also the sunroof. Seems the op's truck has some oddities.
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Funny the hatch window doesn't work at all without the key, except down with the fob button.
The battery doesn't drain unusually. maybe I'll eventually look at the window relays and see if they are different than recommended or altered at all.
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Have you tried other accessories, such as the radio, that should normally have no power when the ignition key is removed? I'm thinking you might have an ignition switch problem.
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Welp that can't be normal.
Looks like a jumper from one relay to the IG spot which is empty. Assuming that's an ignition relay..
Never even opened that panel in my 6 years of having the SUV. I guess I'll buy a relay for that spot and see what happens.
Thanks for the tip to check in there.
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