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I'm most def going with new and after market bushings first to see the returned results B4 I spend more money. I've read on here that with the after market sways that your ride will most def lose traction in cornering....not my style so I'm gonna go in steps. I idea of spending paper to LOSE traction when wanting to keep it but just make it more comfortable doesn't seem worth the price.
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09-21-2008, 09:50 PM
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I'm most def going with new and after market bushings first to see the returned results B4 I spend more money. I've read on here that with the after market sways that your ride will most def lose traction in cornering....not my style so I'm gonna go in steps. I idea of spending paper to LOSE traction when wanting to keep it but just make it more comfortable doesn't seem worth the price.
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09-22-2008, 01:02 PM
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Glad it worked well for you.
Did you Liquid Wrench or PB Blast the bolts the day before? I feel so lucky about living out of the snowbelt, bolts are easy.
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It wasn't about breaking the nuts loose, it was taking off the endlink nuts with an open end wrench because I couldn't fit my socket wrench behind the fender well liner. Took forever. I suppose a ratcheting wrench set would've made it much easier.
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10-20-2008, 06:02 PM
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I have a 2004 2wd v8. Any idea what size swaybars they put on there? Thanks in advance.
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10-20-2008, 07:11 PM
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I have a 2004 2wd v8. Any idea what size swaybars they put on there? Thanks in advance.
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I am not sure. The front should be 30mm. The rear is up for grabs. You should measure it. The Toyota parts catalog shows two different part #'s. I interpret that to mean 2 sizes.
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10-21-2008, 01:33 AM
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I've got four new end link bushings +washers that I didn't use for my truck. They give you 8, you only need 4. If you're interested, PM me.
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10-21-2008, 04:21 PM
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I am not sure. The front should be 30mm. The rear is up for grabs. You should measure it. The Toyota parts catalog shows two different part #'s. I interpret that to mean 2 sizes.
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Yeah, I already called the local dealerships, but they didn't know where to check for exact sizes. What part do I measure?
Also, where is the rear swaybar located? The spec sheet says that my 4runner is supposed to have front and rear "stabilizer" bars, but I can't find the rear swaybars... not even the welded-on swaybar mounts found on the '08 models.
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I've got four new end link bushings +washers that I didn't use for my truck. They give you 8, you only need 4. If you're interested, PM me.
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PM'ed you for info.
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10-21-2008, 04:52 PM
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Ok... You need to measure the diameter of the barstock of the swaybar. Bushings are sold in 1mm increments so be precise.
Look at these pics.
Install tip: As tempting as it is to cut the wheel to gain access don't. You'll 'load' the swaybar and it will be difficult to line it up. Just lay on you back and suck it up. Jacking and removing the tire will cause the same problem. If you do jack it up then jack & jackstand BOTH sides simultaneously, not necessary but that would make it easy (if you can talk the neighborhood kid into doing the jacking ).
These are what you want for the next pic; Energy Suspension 9-8105G
This view is from in front of the RR tire.
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10-24-2008, 02:58 PM
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Thanks for the posting the helpful pics. Now I need to find a micronometer(sp) to measure them.
btw, I've been following a few of your DIY threads on several forums. Looks like you're ready to set up your own blog.
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10-24-2008, 03:55 PM
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Thanks for the posting the helpful pics. Now I need to find a micronometer(sp) to measure them.
btw, I've been following a few of your DIY threads on several forums. Looks like you're ready to set up your own blog.
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Thanks for the compliment. A micrometer would work but a good one is expensive. A simple caliper will work. http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1292837 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...ctId=100080103 My guess is for most DIY progects these might be handier than a micrometer.
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10-28-2008, 04:28 PM
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Nice! I thought the rear bar was 21MM...
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You're right, 2wd v8's rear bar is 21mm.
Good tip, saved me hundreds, haha. I got the calipers at a local ACE hardware store, used it to check my 4runner as well as a friend's Frontier truck.
Today, I called JEGs to order all the parts for both trucks, but these are special-order only sizes and will take 3 weeks! Any other good sites you'd recommend? Thanks.
One more thing, how do I find out the correct size endlink bushings for my 4runner and a Frontier?
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10-28-2008, 04:32 PM
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You're right, 2wd v8's rear bar is 21mm.
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10-28-2008, 06:07 PM
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...One more thing, how do I find out the correct size endlink bushings for my 4runner and a Frontier?
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Glad you're on the right track.
As far as endlink bushings go I used these, Energy Suspension 9-8105G. What I have found is there's one size that fits almost all. These may be a little thicker than the stock ones but will work fine. I suspect the Frontier will use the same ones.
Until you get into full sized trucks the ones I suggested pretty much will cover it. It's likely that a local Autozone or PepBoys will have the endlink bushings in stock.
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from another thread...
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3. More recently, I found your thread about upgrading the stabilizer bar bushings / endlinks to turn the T4R into the best handling SUV in the history of SUV's. After a dozen phone calls to various dealers (some promised to research and call back but never did, some required 3weeks to special order, some never returned my messages, some don't stock these items, mfr tech's referred me to places that ended up being dead ends, etc), finally found one to special order / drop ship the exact parts I needed. I received the bushings yesterday, then the endlinks today... this is the place I ended up ordering from: www.neverenoughauto.com
I plan on installing the bushings / endlinks tomorrow, just in time for this weekend's road trip.
FOLLOW UP "Report":
I had my highly skilled mechanic install the bushings and endlinks, took about 45 minutes, simple, easy installation. Gave him 50 custom stickers, high grade vinyl and clear flypaper, in various sizes. Also included a special set of "brushed metal" carbon fiber stickers... worth it's weight in gold.. very delicate, very fragile, and high casualty rate. Sorry for going off topic, it's an inside "joke" that only CJ3Flyr can understand, because I just read and replied to his PM. Bottomline, these upgraded polyurethane bushings and endlinks are doing a great job of dampening the T4R's roll during cornering. The T4R acts like it's very reluctant to roll during hard cornering.
New CJ3flyer commercial:
Front coilovers: $35
Rear shocks/coils: $50
Bushings/Endlinks: $50
SUV w/ sports car handling: Priceless
Day 2 FOLLOW UP Report:
As mentioned earlier, upgrading the suspension has been a three step process. Short after installing the front FJ coilovers, I noticed an instant improvement in handling, but not enough to stop the major body roll from turning into slightly angled driveways or parking lot entrances (90 degree / right turn). I'd always forget I was driving an SUV because I switch between vehicles during the week. Worse was when a friend drive my T4R... she's not used to beemers not SUVs... made a sharp turn into the parking lot entrance and the 5 of us felt like we were flying all over the place (seatbelted). Well this morning, I drove into the same parking lot and went "oh crap" because I forgot to slow down... the entire truck body started to act like it was about to thrash around but the bushings/endlinks kicked in and started dampening the roll and things instantly evened out... resulting in minimal roll. Two words: ItWasAn AmazingExperience. My T4R drives like a car, does yours? lol.
For those of you concerned with diminished offroad capabilities... you need not worry, you're supposed to disconnect (unbolt endlinks) the stabilizer bars before every offroad outting, anyway.
btw, CJ3Flyr, would you mind adding this info to the first post of your other thread, it'll help save people a lot of time.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showth...threadid=34115
http://www.neverenoughauto.com/index.php
4Runner V8 2WD parts:
Prothane Greasable Universal Bushings
21mm 19-1164-BL
30mm 19-1186-BL
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http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showth...726#post360726
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This is just the post I've been looking for! Thanks Chris - ordered all the parts you recommended today!
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