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Water for fuel conversion kit?
Hey all,
I was wondering if any of you on here have heard of the water for fuel conversion kit, and if so, has anyone actually installed one? Any results?
My roommate told me about it a few weeks ago. Here's a link to the site:
http://water4gas.com/2books.htm?hop=moneybeat
I don't know, I think it sounds too good to be true, but I've never spoken to anyone who has actually done it.
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03-26-2008, 02:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure if that were true... that crap would be all over the news.
p.s. Rising gas prices? What about rising water prices??? I paid 1.25 for 8oz today! [/smartass]. Seriously though.
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03-26-2008, 03:09 AM
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I'm pretty sure if that were true... that crap would be all over the news.
p.s. Rising gas prices? What about rising water prices??? I paid 1.25 for 8oz today! [/smartass]. Seriously though.
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haha. Yeah, I thought about that, but I think it really just comes down to corporate sponsorship and advertising dollars. Since this small company has no major financial backing, there is no advertising money.
News networks rely on advertising dollars, so if an oil company like Chevron or Shell has a commercial contract with one of the networks, they might pull their funding if they feel threatened by a company that promotes an alternative fuel.
Oil companies have their greedy hands in almost every facet of corporate America. If they don't like something, they will make sure to put an end to it. Maybe this isn't a scam and it's just not receiving exposure for this reason. I don't know, just one theory.
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03-26-2008, 08:00 AM
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IMHO I think that is a bunch of BS. In one of the pictures it shows a hook up on a diesel engine, they claim and it's not even a diesel engine. If this was legit it would be all over the place. It's a scam to sell useless books. Feel free to try it and let us know?
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I've seen quite a few video's on Youtube in which people have converted their engines to run on water or a water/ gas mix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQEBW9UFNI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9iWaCMbw60
Not sure how much time and energy goes into this, it is extremely interesting!
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I saw a PT Cruiser yesterday on the freeway that was converted
It had that water4gas sign on each side + the back window.
I found it interesting, but I never went to the site. Maybe now I will!
edit - so I checked it out.. turns out they're creating HHO and injecting it into the air intake path. They also use some electronic box to "trick" the MAP/MAF sensor, I think to fool the ECU into thinking its running very rich, thus reducing the amt of gas being injected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen_flame
HHO is a flammable gas created from water.
I can see the potential here.. maybe I'll try it out on my Dakota. Its got over 161,000mi on it and still runs great. It would make a good test vehicle.
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Yeah, I've seen those videos, too. I'm only gonna try it if I talk to at least several people first-hand who have done it and have gotten good results.
I do know that all the technology involved to make the conversion is relatively simple... I've heard that it costs less than $200 to do it. On the other hand, I've also head that if done incorrectly, the conversion can cause serious problems, like the detonation of the HHO "chamber" under the hood! No good, man, no good.
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Originally posted by thrak
I saw a PT Cruiser yesterday on the freeway that was converted
It had that water4gas sign on each side + the back window.
I found it interesting, but I never went to the site. Maybe now I will!
edit - so I checked it out.. turns out they're creating HHO and injecting it into the air intake path. They also use some electronic box to "trick" the MAP/MAF sensor, I think to fool the ECU into thinking its running very rich, thus reducing the amt of gas being injected.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen_flame
HHO is a flammable gas created from water.
I can see the potential here.. maybe I'll try it out on my Dakota. Its got over 161,000mi on it and still runs great. It would make a good test vehicle.
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You should try it and let us know!
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I installed mine today....Ill let you know if it works...
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OK I;ll bite. Let us all know how it works out. Wish I had a beater to try it on.
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That sounds very interesting.
Let us know the results of the conversion.
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You can't be serious... As the man says there is no free lunch. Save your money (and pride) and just lighten up on the right foot to save fuel. Don't listen to the marketing hype it is BS. Lemmings learn to late.
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Originally posted by steve germany
You can't be serious... As the man says there is no free lunch. Save your money (and pride) and just lighten up on the right foot to save fuel. Don't listen to the marketing hype it is BS. Lemmings learn to late.
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Well, this is a good way to find out if it is bs or not: by talking to others who have tried it. You can't knock it 'til you try it or someone you know has tried it. If you live by your mentality... man, that's a pretty closed off existence.
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mmmmm, snake oil! You'll no doubt see more and more of these scams pop up as fuel prices climb. People like to take advantage of the hysteria. Ever hear of Brown's Gas?
Do you really think that cracking H2O would require less energy than it produces? How many perpetual motion machines have you purchased?
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mmmmm, snake oil! You'll no doubt see more and more of these scams pop up as fuel prices climb. People like to take advantage of the hysteria. Ever hear of Brown's Gas?
Do you really think that cracking H2O would require less energy than it produces? How many perpetual motion machines have you purchased?
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No, I never said that I believed that it would work! That's why I started this thread to see if any one had done it. Yeah, I think it sounds too good to be true, too, but I wanted to see if anyone had actually done it before I rule it out.
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