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Old 08-21-2010, 04:18 PM #31
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Got some new mods since I last posted any so here they are:

1.25" Spidertraxx wheel spacers
Borla Turbo with 45 degree exit & black Borla 4" rolled angle tip
LED entry lighting for the nerf bars (LED Strips wired to factory running board light circuit)
Eonon half din DVD player
LT265/70R17 BFG A/T (c rated)

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Black tubular Sport Edition roof rack
URD MAF sensor recalibrator
EBC front rotors (one of mine is warped)

I had the tires installed before the wheels because I got another flat (3rd in 2 months with one of the others still having to be aired up periodically) & I decided I wanted something with a stiffer tread compound. Also when I was off-roading in CO the front 2 were lost to ~20 psi (and the tread was cracking on the shoulders) after only crawling through the rock beds without spinning or any real abuse, I've never had a tire show damage like that from such light off-roading.

After 3 months of debating among hankooks atms, gysa, nitto tg, and revos as well as between the 265/70 & 255/75 question, I woke up this morning and went and bought the BFG A/Ts. I've had 2 sets of the MT KOs (old style, not KM) that never went flat even though I've seen nails poking out of the tread (then mysteriously not in the tread a day later); they were the best tires I've owned and only lost air once from a nail (but never had to be plugged) so I decided to see if the AT KOs were as good. Plus everyone swears you'll get at least 50K if you treat em right.

I had to move the front fender liner forward but didn't trim anything to eliminate scrubbing. I also had to remove the front mud flaps before I even left the tire place because they were clearly going to get ripped off. I will probably remove the rear flaps sometime this week but I know it's a little more involved than the fronts & I'll have more time during the week (oddly).

Pictures after new tires & a half-ass pressure washing

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That thing is lookin' better and better bro. I like the stance with the tires and spacers. What tires did you have before that were so crappy?
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Those tires look great. How do they affect the ride in terms of road noise? Any difference?
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That thing is lookin' better and better bro. I like the stance with the tires and spacers. What tires did you have before that were so crappy?
Thanks, So do I! I had the stock 265/65 Dueler H/T 840s. They rode pretty well on the road, until they quit staying filled, but I just don't think they were durable enough for me.
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Those tires look great. How do they affect the ride in terms of road noise? Any difference?
Thanks, I think they may a little bit louder than stock. If I have the radio on loud enough to hear (but not too loud to carry on a conversation over) I can't hear them at all, and you certainly don't have "talk over them" with the radio off. With the windows down and the stereo off I think there is a slight difference, but they may get a little bit louder as they wear.

I can also feel the expansion joints in bridges and cracks in the road just a little more with these at ~30-40 mph. Thats to be expected though when switching from a P to an LT, or a street tire to AT for that matter.

Overall none of the changes in street/highway ride quality are enough to overcome how much I like them in terms of traction, looks, & rubber compound. I think a lot people aren't as picky as me and probably wouldn't notice the change in ride quality as much but I've really been looking for differences.

Also I think I lost some of the .7-1.5 mpg or whatever that I gained from adding the muffler when I upsized the tires. It's early to say but according to car I lost it, or at least some of it.
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Today, I decided after 132K it's time to upgrade the shocks so I removed the stock shocks and the 1/4" toytec spacer (for sale if anyone wants it) today and installed Bilstein 5100s all around with the front shocks set to the 0.85" setting to compensate (and then some) for removing the spacer. I got the shocks from Shockwarehouse.com for $318 shipped, ordered Sunday night and got em yesterday. I'm not sure why everyone else is having trouble getting them, you just gotta look if you want em.

I also installed the Urban Runner roof rack and the URD MAF sensor recalibrator. I'm still waiting on my Sport edition wheels, hopefully monday. I think I'm out of mods (except more lift or a supercharger) now so if anyone has a suggestion, please let me know. I also had to trim the fender flare a little because I've been having some scrubbing issues when turning and flexed a little. Hopefully the lift & cutting will eliminate it.

Also my headlight lenses were cracked so I bought some of the JDM ones instead of painting another new set. They came with a 4000K HID kit which I really like but will probably remove the first time someone flashes their lights at me.

I can't see a lot of difference from the extra 0.35" but maybe you can

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I had all these stickers laying around and didn't want to clutter the body with them (but wanted them on the car for some reason) so I stuck em all on here:


More pics to come when after I change the wheels...
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The new headlight lenses look great! I really like the way it sits now too. The wheel spacers are perfect.
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Very nice Sweet photography on some of those out west shots too
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Great job with your 4Runner. You got me rekindling some old ideas on whats next with my 4Runner- am just being patient for the finances to get here or roll on in the money. The wife saw your BFG'f BIG FRACKIN GUNS BABY and she wants them again but on our 4Runner. SHe said when she drove the Gran Cherokee with BFG's on Nothing ever stopped her so she wants to upgrade. Man I got the best wife- one who is into this sport- yes,my husbad go get the BFG tires Big Papi. Next she want to get exhaust ssaid she likes quiet but what good WOLF if you dont hear him ROAR! So now exhaust is next
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Great looking truck you got. That's good to hear about the tires, you're getting good traction, looks, and durability, with almost no road excess noise. Seems worth it to me, those tires are next on my list.
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The new headlight lenses look great! I really like the way it sits now too. The wheel spacers are perfect.
Thanks! I'm ready for your wheels to be on now...
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Very nice Sweet photography on some of those out west shots too
Thanks, it was pretty easy to find good shots; I took almost 2,000 altogether, including about 100 of the 4runner. It was just so nice out there and where I was (Mineral County) was 95% public land so I could go pretty much anywhere.

Thanks for all the help too! I haven't asked you for help personally but I definitiely used your threads for the lift, sway bar bushings, aux tranny cooler, tick reduction, & vsc off.
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Great job with your 4Runner. You got me rekindling some old ideas on whats next with my 4Runner- am just being patient for the finances to get here or roll on in the money. The wife saw your BFG'f BIG FRACKIN GUNS BABY and she wants them again but on our 4Runner. SHe said when she drove the Gran Cherokee with BFG's on Nothing ever stopped her so she wants to upgrade. Man I got the best wife- one who is into this sport- yes,my husbad go get the BFG tires Big Papi. Next she want to get exhaust ssaid she likes quiet but what good WOLF if you dont hear him ROAR! So now exhaust is next
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Great looking truck you got. That's good to hear about the tires, you're getting good traction, looks, and durability, with almost no road excess noise. Seems worth it to me, those tires are next on my list.
Thanks! I really like the BFGs so far but I knew I would, I have always liked BFGs. They are a slight bit louder since the nipples have worn off but it still isn't enough to bother me, I don't think they're any (or not much) louder than my brothers silent armors (my 2nd choice) and I think they look better (so does he ) and they definitely get better traction when needed.

And Aquabear, if you're looking for exhaust I must recommend the borla turbo muffler, I saved about $800 buying just the muffler and not the system. It isn't tuned like the system but I think it sounds great, I only really notice it when I'm doing small driving like backing out of the driveway or driving a few hundred feet. On the interstate and around town it isn't too noticeable. I kept my stock muffler just in case it was too loud and ricey but I have yet to go get it welded back on so I have to say I must like the Borla.
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Hey Gaterose,.. Just a quick question: What backup cam did you go with and how do you like it? I'm just looking to add a cam and can't find much T4R specific info.

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Hey Gaterose,.. Just a quick question: What backup cam did you go with and how do you like it? I'm just looking to add a cam and can't find much T4R specific info.

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I have an alpine HCE-107d, I like it so far. I don't think there is very much difference between it and other models though. I like alpine and have an alpine HU so I bought the alpine camera with direct input (although the HU would've accepted any brand camera I just would've used a different connector). I don't think it is necessarily a better camera than any of the others though.

I haven't gotten completely used to using it and still turn my head around and use my mirrors most of the time instead. It has a wide angle so I can see most of the bumper (as you can see in the pic) and it is GREAT when hooking up or backing up a trailer.
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