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I can't believe I have to ask this... What model do I own?
Oh crap...here it comes. Be gentle boys.
My first mistake was trusting a dealer who located a 2003 4Runner for me. I wasn't specific except that I wanted a 4th Gen, 4x4. That's it. I knew nothing of 4runners 2 months ago.
So I bought a 2003 4x4 that he called a V8 Sport, sight unseen. When it arrived I was a bit pissed, as it didn't seem to have the options I thought were installed in the Sport.
I've seen a few places online that say the 2003 Sport came with: XREAS, heated seats, leather wrap steering wheel with audio controls, Sport badging, 17" alloys, and a hood scoop.
The biggest shock was the lack of the hood scoop. I thought that was a given. I have no hood scoop, no heated seats, no steering audio controls, and the truck is labeled SR5 V8. I do have the plastic lower trim surrounding the vehicle, and the carfax calls it out as a 2003 Toyota 4Runner SR5/Sport Edition.
VIN: JTEBT14R030005830
Did I happen to get a super base model, or have I been screwed? (I know, many of you will say I deserved it for my ignorance.)
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Originally Posted by Pilotmatt
Oh crap...here it comes. Be gentle boys.
My first mistake was trusting a dealer who located a 2003 4Runner for me. I wasn't specific except that I wanted a 4th Gen, 4x4. That's it. I knew nothing of 4runners 2 months ago.
So I bought a 2003 4x4 that he called a V8 Sport, sight unseen. When it arrived I was a bit pissed, as it didn't seem to have the options I thought were installed in the Sport.
I've seen a few places online that say the 2003 Sport came with: XREAS, heated seats, leather wrap steering wheel with audio controls, Sport badging, 17" alloys, and a hood scoop.
The biggest shock was the lack of the hood scoop. I thought that was a given. I have no hood scoop, no heated seats, no steering audio controls, and the truck is labeled SR5 V8. I do have the plastic lower trim surrounding the vehicle, and the carfax calls it out as a 2003 Toyota 4Runner SR5/Sport Edition.
VIN: JTEBT14R030005830
Did I happen to get a super base model, or have I been screwed? (I know, many of you will say I deserved it for my ignorance.)
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Do you have the 4 wheel drive control located to the right of the ignition key?
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08-13-2010, 08:57 PM
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Yes, I have the 4wd button to the left of the steering wheel, and the position switch for 2hi, 4hi, 4low etc to the right of the ignition.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilotmatt
Oh crap...here it comes. Be gentle boys.
My first mistake was trusting a dealer who located a 2003 4Runner for me. I wasn't specific except that I wanted a 4th Gen, 4x4. That's it. I knew nothing of 4runners 2 months ago.
So I bought a 2003 4x4 that he called a V8 Sport, sight unseen. When it arrived I was a bit pissed, as it didn't seem to have the options I thought were installed in the Sport.
I've seen a few places online that say the 2003 Sport came with: XREAS, heated seats, leather wrap steering wheel with audio controls, Sport badging, 17" alloys, and a hood scoop.
The biggest shock was the lack of the hood scoop. I thought that was a given. I have no hood scoop, no heated seats, no steering audio controls, and the truck is labeled SR5 V8. I do have the plastic lower trim surrounding the vehicle, and the carfax calls it out as a 2003 Toyota 4Runner SR5/Sport Edition.
VIN: JTEBT14R030005830
Did I happen to get a super base model, or have I been screwed? (I know, many of you will say I deserved it for my ignorance.)
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From what I can discern based on the vin you provided:
VIN Decoded by Motoverse.com: JTEBT14R030005830
The VIN you provided belongs to a vehicle that was manufactured in Japan by the Toyota corporation.
2003 TOYOTA
4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
VIN:JTEBT14R030005830
World region:Asia
Manufactured in:Japan
Year:2003
Make:Toyota
Model:4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
Body style:Wagon 4 Door
Transmission:4 Spd Automatic
Drive type:AWD
Cylinders:8 Cylinders
Safety restraints  ual Front, Head and Side Air Bags and Rear Dual Air Bags Side
Standard options:Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Power Brakes, Power Windows, Tilt Wheel, Daytime Running Lights, AM/FM Stereo, Cassette, ABS (4-Wheel)
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hope that helps.....
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Yes, I have the 4wd button to the left of the steering wheel, and the position switch for 2hi, 4hi, 4low etc to the right of the ignition.
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That doesn't sound right either. My understanding was the 4x4 V8 models had full time 4 wheel drive, period. So "2hi" should not be possible on a 4x4 V8.
It sounds like an SR5 to me. Sport Edition 4Runner would not have SR5 on the door. It's conceivable that someone could swap the hood to non scoop if they didnt like it, maybe even the wheels. But a full on Sport Edition to SR5 conversion including removing any trace of XREAS and replacing the Sport Edition door badges with SR5 badges would be highly unlikely.
I recall seeing some "SR5 Sport" 4Runners back when I was shopping for my Sport Edition. It was like when the dealers were writing the add, they were like "yeah its an SR5 and it's a sport utility vehicle, so it must be a SR5 Sport." They were definitely not Sport Edition 4Runners.
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08-13-2010, 09:48 PM
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Your right about the 4wd switch...I haven't used it much so couldn't remember the positions. Its a 4wd / 4lo switch. I use the left push button to lock into 4wd, and then select 4low / or leave it in 4wd as needed on the position turn knob.
I'm more comfortable with the carfax and the other reports I've seen. I guess I'll get underneath and see if I can identify an XREAS system at all somehow.
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Your right about the 4wd switch...I haven't used it much so couldn't remember the positions. Its a 4wd / 4lo switch. I use the left push button to lock into 4wd, and then select 4low / or leave it in 4wd as needed on the position turn knob.
I'm more comfortable with the carfax and the other reports I've seen. I guess I'll get underneath and see if I can identify an XREAS system at all somehow.
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You have a base SR5 model, you do not have the SE.
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From what I can discern based on the vin you provided:
VIN Decoded by Motoverse.com: JTEBT14R030005830
The VIN you provided belongs to a vehicle that was manufactured in Japan by the Toyota corporation.
2003 TOYOTA
4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
VIN:JTEBT14R030005830
World region:Asia
Manufactured in:Japan
Year:2003
Make:Toyota
Model:4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
Body style:Wagon 4 Door
Transmission:4 Spd Automatic
Drive type:AWD
Cylinders:8 Cylinders
Safety restraints ual Front, Head and Side Air Bags and Rear Dual Air Bags Side
Standard options:Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Power Brakes, Power Windows, Tilt Wheel, Daytime Running Lights, AM/FM Stereo, Cassette, ABS (4-Wheel)
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Matt,
Looks like you got a nice one. Side-air bags is really a nice feature (IMHO) and a bit rare. You are missing some key SE features though...
Have you looked at J.A.'s site with the year-to-year breakdown and brochures?
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I'm glad it's as confusing to others. How could Toyota manufactured this as a Sport, but not badge it as such, no hood scoop (which maybe someone traded out/didn't want it). I guess there's nothing I can do about it. It's a Sport without some of the standard Sport equipment. wtf. I thought I could trust a Carfax and a VIN check. My fault for not laying eyes on it first. I own a one-of-a-kind! Unfortunately that also makes it a mutt.
Standard Equipment on the Sport Edition includes...
nope...hood scoop
Got it...P265/65/R17 white outline tires on 17" aluminum alloy wheels with 17" Got it...alloy spare
nope...sport edition badging
got it...silver painted, grille, door handles, license garnish, roof rails
i have to look tomorrow...X-REAS shocks
got it...integrated fog lamps
got it...leather-wrapped steering wheel with satellite stereo and cruise controls
got it...silver tone shift knob
got it...high-contrast seat fabrics
got it (not sure if they are heated)...color-keyed heated power exterior mirrors
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I guess I'll get underneath and see if I can identify an XREAS system at all somehow.
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Stand facing the seam between front and rear doors. Get way down and look at the surface of the frame rail facing you. With XREAS, there's a long canister fitted there that you can't miss.
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No XREAS.
I specifically was represented a sport by both the auction house, and also the dealer who obtained it.
In their defense both Toyota and Carfax claim it's a sport. However a Toyota dealership also did a prebuy inspection to verify that everything on the truck was correct.
I'll inform the dealer, but I've driven it 4000 miles, so I'm sure I'm screwed. Now I definitely overpaid.
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they say its a sport because its a sport utility vehicle so they say its a "2003 toyota 4runner 4wd SR5 sport"
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The VIN verification specifically says "SR5/Sport Edition"
2003 TOYOTA
4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
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VIN:JTEBT14R030005830
World region:Asia
Manufactured in:Japan
Year:2003
Make:Toyota
Model:4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
Body style:Wagon 4 Door
Transmission:4 Spd Automatic
Drive type:AWD
Cylinders:8 Cylinders
Safety restraints ual Front, Head and Side Air Bags and Rear Dual Air Bags Side
Standard options:Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Power Brakes, Power Windows, Tilt Wheel, Daytime Running Lights, AM/FM Stereo, Cassette, ABS (4-Wheel)
Well, I'm actually sick to my stomach now. I emailed the dealer, but we all know where that's going to go. It's probably cheaper for me to suck it up and own it.
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Its a 4wd / 4lo switch. I use the left push button to lock into 4wd, and then select 4low / or leave it in 4wd as needed on the position turn knob.
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No offense but you may want to review your owners manual on the 4 wheel drive operation. This sentence makes me think you are a little confused on how it works. The 2003 V8 is full time 4WD. You can't turn it off, only select between 4HI and 4LO. The button on the left is to lock the differential.
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Thanks. I've read the manual online, but you help remind me. Everything was stripped from my car when I bought it from the manual to the cup holder and coin holder.
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