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Changing WS transmission fluid in 2005 T4R
I have around 65,000 miles (recently bought used T4R) but based on not knowing how much towing the previous owner did, I'd like to change the WS transimission fluid. The dealerships charge between $300-$360 here in the Denver area for a complete flush and refill. Hearding scary stories about transmisssion shop flushes, should I be concerned about anything at the dealership?
A drain is $120 but that only removes 3-4 quarts. If I replace all the fluid, I probably will not have to mess with this for another 70K-90K miles. Has anyone had any bad experiences with a complete flush on their T4R? Any other ideas or thoughts?
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08-24-2010, 05:02 PM
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I have around 65,000 miles (recently bought used T4R) but based on not knowing how much towing the previous owner did, I'd like to change the WS transimission fluid. The dealerships charge between $300-$360 here in the Denver area for a complete flush and refill. Hearding scary stories about transmisssion shop flushes, should I be concerned about anything at the dealership?
A drain is $120 but that only removes 3-4 quarts. If I replace all the fluid, I probably will not have to mess with this for another 70K-90K miles. Has anyone had any bad experiences with a complete flush on their T4R? Any other ideas or thoughts?
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 That pricing sounds near double what other markets charge
Are you a DIY guy? It's a bit tedious but very doable.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/mainte...on-sealed.html
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08-24-2010, 10:41 PM
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Yeah, I called three dealership and the thiefs quoted me $300-$360 for the flush and $110-$135 for the drain (3-4 quarts, they think). I'll call a couple of the Toyota-only shops tomorrow.
I change my oil but that's about it. I could look at the DIY instructions and see what is involved and then decide, based on the complexity and cost of the WS fluid. I'm sure they will charge an insane price for it. Still, $350 plus tax is a lot of money for a tranny fluid change.
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08-24-2010, 11:04 PM
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Yeah, I called three dealership and the thiefs quoted me $300-$360 for the flush and $110-$135 for the drain (3-4 quarts, they think). I'll call a couple of the Toyota-only shops tomorrow.
I change my oil but that's about it. I could look at the DIY instructions and see what is involved and then decide, based on the complexity and cost of the WS fluid. I'm sure they will charge an insane price for it. Still, $350 plus tax is a lot of money for a tranny fluid change.
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Check the non-dealer Toyota specialty shops. WS has been out a while and they should be able to handle just fine for a lot less money. Lexus uses it too. It's not just a 4Runner thing...
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08-25-2010, 12:28 AM
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Yeah, there are a couple of non-dealer shops that only work on Toyotas. I'll call and talk to them. You would think they would be a bit more reasonable but their service departments are money makers, even in this crappy economy, I suppose.
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I just got this done at the dealer today. I'm a big DIY guy, dif/transfer case fluid, oil, lift, shocks/springs, alarm, stereo, speakers but the transmission flush, despite looking incredibly easy was only 80 dollars more if i went with the dealer. And piece of mind was worth it for me.
The dealer charged me 160 for everything.
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08-25-2010, 01:09 AM
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Try Toy Car Care in Centennial. I used to use them alot and have had awesome results. They service only Toyota and Lexus.
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08-25-2010, 09:26 AM
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Thanks, I'll call them as well as another shop (I forget the name). Either way, the dealer will not get my business at these prices. Heck, they quoted me $190 for the front/rear diffs and transfer case.
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Try Toy Car Care in Centennial. I used to use them alot and have had awesome results. They service only Toyota and Lexus.
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08-25-2010, 10:57 AM
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I have using this for about 30k now and enjoying flawless transmission performance.
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08-25-2010, 11:20 AM
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Didn't know how many had already used it- good to know since I heard RL wasn't as "thin" as WS.
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08-25-2010, 06:38 PM
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What's the drain interval on the amsoil? i'll probably wait till 100k (at 63k now) to do the ATF change since I don't tow or go off roading.
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08-25-2010, 07:28 PM
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There is no need to change the fluid (OEM) unless it gets damaged (WS trans). There is an idiot light on the dash that will indicate a problem. Don't waste your time and money. If you change the fluid, you will never have to change it again (OEM or Amsoil).
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Oddly enough we happened to have this same conversation with a local dealer today. My girlfriend has an '05 v6 4Runner that she recently bought. Had it in for some window tinting and to repair some bumper damage I'd done to it (oops!). Service guy recommended waiting till 100k miles (probably a year or so for us), and quoted us around $140 to do it.
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08-25-2010, 11:51 PM
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Ugh, Toy Car Care also quoted me $350. I'll call the other two tomorrow. It's around $12 per quart and $200 worth of labor.:jaw drop:
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