04-07-2011, 04:06 AM
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HID beginner help
Hey,
I just bought a 2006 T4R, and I want to put in HID's. I've tried to do searches and read up as much as I can, but I'm still unclear on a few things, so figured I'd ask.
First off, I want as WHITE a light as possible, no yellow, I'd rather a hint of blue than yellow if I had to pick one. So I'm thinking 5000k, 35w. I don't want to blind people or get tickets (I live in NYC), I just want nice white/bluish headlights. Price is also an issue so I'm looking at DDM.
I'm still unclear: Do I need to order a harness? Canceler/error eliminator? From what I've read, I don't think I need either. But then I just started reading something about projectors? Will that help aim the lights or something?
Any advice on the cheapest yet most user-friendly kit I could buy would be appreciated. I'm like a total newbie to all this but I'm gonna try and put these in myself. I just wanna make sure I buy all the right things!  Thanks so much
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04-07-2011, 06:07 AM
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5000k will be purest white, 6000k will be pure white with just a hint of blue. I ordered 6000k and I honestly dont see much blue at all but I think they look awesome. Night and day difference over halogens. You do not need the harness or the error eliminator. Just order the kit for $40 and you'll be fine.
You are correct about the projector part. It is recommended that if you buy HIDs you should have a projector housing. Fortunately if you have a 2006 yours should come with a factory projector housing so you're in good shape. You shouldnt have to aim them down but if you notice people flashing you as you pass them you might want to adjust them a little.
I have them installed in a 2003 reflector housing. I have had them in for 5 days now and havent been flashed once yet. I have not adjusted them at all so far. I figured I'd just plug them in and see how it goes. So far so good I havent had anybody flash me or any trouble with law. You have the factory projectors so you'll have a "cut off line" to help with stray light and glare.
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04-07-2011, 11:29 AM
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I just put HIDs in my 06 about a month ago. After reading reviews extensively I went with this kit from Xenon Depot. Also I ordered the Phillips bulb (just a higher quality than the generic one).
Xtreme Digital HID Kits
The install is really straight forward which is good because the included directions definitely suck. Luckily, all the plugs will only connect one way. As far as being pure white, I went with 4300K it's actually really white with a tiny tinge of blue in there. I believe 4300K is the whitest, anything less and you'll start to get some yellow. Also, there is the "squirrel finder" mod if you search the forums but I thought it looked like a pain and chose to skip that step. The cutoff line looks pretty good and I haven't gotten flashed or stopped once. I'm also in a city (Washington DC) and people don't seem to notice so I wouldn't worry about being in NYC.
One more helpful tip that I would suggest is connecting your battery to a charger before you disconnect it. I did it and I didn't have to renormalize the windows and reprogram the radio and all that bs.
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04-07-2011, 11:39 AM
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I have 6000K in my lows and 3000K in fogs and love the look/ output
I use XenonLink.com HID Conversion Kit., but friends have used DDM tuning. com
I have the black headlights, love the the look!!! Adjust headlights after you put them in.
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04-07-2011, 12:01 PM
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4300 is the purest white. I have 4300 lows 5000 highs and you can see the blue in the 5000 compared to the 4300
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04-07-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonicpilz
I have them installed in a 2003 reflector housing. I have had them in for 5 days now and havent been flashed once yet. I have not adjusted them at all so far. I figured I'd just plug them in and see how it goes. So far so good I havent had anybody flash me or any trouble with law. You have the factory projectors so you'll have a "cut off line" to help with stray light and glare.
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That doesn't mean you aren't blinding anyone b/c you are. At least adjust them downward.
To the OP: OEM HIDs are about 4300K which are pretty white. No clues of yellow. Using the 4Runner's projector aren't perfect, but good enough.
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04-07-2011, 01:07 PM
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As stated previously, about 4300K is pure white. Above 4300K you begin to lose useable light; approx. 16% loss from 4000K to 5000K. At 5000K, those with anything but the best of vision will notice problems seeing in the dark when it's raining, foggy, etc.. Useable light continues to drops off as you continue into the cooler colors.
5000K at 35W shouldn't get you flashed or looked at by LEO's.
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04-07-2011, 01:33 PM
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I think 5,000K is a really good color. I haven't seen a 4,300K set up that looks pure white yet.
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04-07-2011, 02:26 PM
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As far as temperature, I LOVE my 4300, its absolutely perfect.. in my opinion, if I see any blue it reminds me of the cheap junk cars that get hids.. for whatever reason, they always opt for higher temps with blue. I like the look of a Mercedes or BMWs temp, just sooo much cleaner.. just my two cents.
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04-07-2011, 02:42 PM
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A proper retrofit and the bulbs make a difference too. Projects will add a little color to the light. A cheaper bulb will probably put out a different color compared to a higher end bulb like a Philips.
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04-07-2011, 07:14 PM
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To JillianJ: welcome to the forum! Do not waste your time and money on cheap kits. XenonDepot has quality for around $200.
I have the 4300 Philips kit on order for my 2003 Limited. Guys, how much of an issue with glare will I have to deal with? Is it recommended that I adjust them down a bit?
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04-07-2011, 07:21 PM
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just aim your lights down. I don't get flashed by high beams anymore after I did.
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04-07-2011, 07:28 PM
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How much down should they be adjusted?
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04-07-2011, 10:12 PM
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one of the best things you can do if you get the HIDs to prevent from blinding other drivers is the squirrel finder mod. Although I'm not sure if your T4R has the squirrel finder. mine is a 2008 and mine did. here's a link anyways.
HID project write up detail (pics)
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04-07-2011, 10:46 PM
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I love my setup:
Lexus RX-AFS (e.g. RX-330) Projectors, TSX-R Lens
Phillips 85122 4300K
Denso OEM Lexus/Toyota Ballasts
The Phillips bulbs I have are starting to color-shift naturally towards 5000K, which is the reason I bought these instead of the 85122+. The quality of the projector lens greatly affects the quality of the light, hence my decision to use the TSX-R lens. Also, different types of shields inside projectors change the cutoff. All of the above variables: OEM Ballast, Philips Bulbs, and High-quality projectors w/ clear lens contribute to the best look that you can expect to achieve. White bright light and sharp blue cutoff band.
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