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Old 11-23-2011, 06:39 PM #1
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TPMS Sensors?

2011 Limited here with 20" tires. I do like the ride on the highway but am considering a set of aggressive 17" for off road / snow.

What I'm thinking about doing is putting the 20" on when I have a 10 hour drive down I95 and putting the 17" when going to play off road.

The question is about the TPMS Sensors. Do I need to get a set for the new 17"? If so, do they need to be programmed every time I change from one set to another? If so, is it a big deal?

Or....is there a way to disable the system all together so I can just change wheels without issue?

Posted this elsewhere but guess I can ask here too:

I'm looking to buy a set of 5th Gen Trail Edition Wheels (Rims). Other than the dealer and our classified where would be the best place to buy?
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2011 Limited here with 20" tires. I do like the ride on the highway but am considering a set of aggressive 17" for off road / snow.

What I'm thinking about doing is putting the 20" on when I have a 10 hour drive down I95 and putting the 17" when going to play off road.

The question is about the TPMS Sensors. Do I need to get a set for the new 17"? If so, do they need to be programmed every time I change from one set to another? If so, is it a big deal?

Or....is there a way to disable the system all together so I can just change wheels without issue?

Posted this elsewhere but guess I can ask here too:

I'm looking to buy a set of 5th Gen Trail Edition Wheels (Rims). Other than the dealer and our classified where would be the best place to buy?
To disable.....I'm sure there's a wire to cut or one to run to ground coming off the TPMS ECU to disable the warning light if somebody was so inclined to read the wiring diagrams and figure it out. I don't think anybody has yet on the 5ths. There is a write-up for 4th gens but our wiring is completely different.

I just bought a second set as they are cheap on feebay and I kind of like knowing if a tire is going down.

Here's a previous thread with part numbers and more info....
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Thanks. Again! Do you also have the Quickset tool mentioned in the other thread? I'm assuming it or something like it is required whenever you swap sets of wheels.
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Found out today that the Land Cruiser is the only Yota that has the memory capabilities for two different sets (4x2 + spare?) of TPMS sensors so you can have a winter set and a summer set of wheels and tires.
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Found out today that the Land Cruiser is the only Yota that has the memory capabilities for two different sets (4x2 + spare?) of TPMS sensors so you can have a winter set and a summer set of wheels and tires.
Would be a nice feature to have.
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I didn't bother with the sensors for my winter wheels/tires. Too costly for a few months. The TPMS light does come on, I just ignore it. It also resets every time I pull into the garage where the oems are stored.
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I didn't bother with the sensors for my winter wheels/tires. Too costly for a few months. The TPMS light does come on, I just ignore it. It also resets every time I pull into the garage where the oems are stored.
Wow, almost like Bluetooth.
So, to clarify, if I buy new TPMS for my winter wheels, it will or it won't keep the light off? Does something have to be reset for winter TPMS?
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I didn't bother with the sensors for my winter wheels/tires. Too costly for a few months. The TPMS light does come on, I just ignore it. It also resets every time I pull into the garage where the oems are stored.
Same thing here, I have my winter tires mounted on 5th Gen SR5 wheel take-off with no TPMS. I could not justify added expense on TPMS, ATEQ TPMS QuickSet tool or dealership re-programming. Not really a big deal, winter tires are mounted for two weeks now and the light comes on only once . After I parked the truck in the driveway, in less than a minute (I think) the light goes off. OEM wheels/tires with TPMS are in the garage about 1 truck length away where the truck is parked.

Thanks to philsey's feedback when I was planning to buy winter tire set , I saved a LOT!!!!
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Wow, almost like Bluetooth.
So, to clarify, if I buy new TPMS for my winter wheels, it will or it won't keep the light off? Does something have to be reset for winter TPMS?
Having a another set of TPMS on your winter tires/wheels won't turn the light off ( to my knowledge).

You will need use TPMS tool (e.g. ATEQ TPMS QuickSet) to re-program vehicle ECU with the new TPMS Valves. You will have to use this tool everytime you switch wheels with TPMS.

I know where to buy here in GTA, PM me if you're interested.

BTW, I choose not to have TPMS on my winter wheel/tire set. NOT A BIG DEAL
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Having a another set of TPMS on your winter tires/wheels won't turn the light off ( to my knowledge).

You will need use TPMS tool (e.g. ATEQ TPMS QuickSet) to re-program vehicle ECU with the new TPMS Valves. You will have to use this tool everytime you switch wheels with TPMS.

I know where to buy here in GTA, PM me if you're interested.

BTW, I choose not to have TPMS on my winter wheel/tire set. NOT A BIG DEAL
Anybody know how to turn the TPMS light off without cutting a wire?
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ATEQ TPMS Quickset Tool

Price: $150.05
Item Number: AT-TPMQUICKSET
Every TPMS sensor has an individual Electronic Serial Number (ESN). Each time you change your Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) sensors you must re-learn the sensors ESN's into the cars Electronic Control Unit (ECU). Many of vehicles can be put into learn mode through steps outlined in your owners manual. However, most vehicles manufactured by Japanese makers (Toyota, Honda, Nissan etc.) require an electonic tool.

For a full listing of vehicles which require an electronic reset tool please visit this location:
2011 ATEQ TPM QuickSet Application Chart
ATEQ's TPM Quickset is the first DIY Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) re-learn tool. It is a PC based tool. Simply follow the 5 easy steps below.

1. Load the software on your PC by following the on screan instructions

2. Input in your sensors ESN's into the software.

3. Connect the On Board Diagnostic (OBD) adapter to your computer with the USB cable.

4. Load the ESN's into the OBD adapter.

5. Connect the OBD adapter to the ODB plug under your dash and with the press on one button your ESN's will be loaded into your cars ECU.

The complete instruction manual is available at our web site http://www.revolutionsupply.com/pdf/...ser_manual.pdf


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Thanks Gapo! Harper's link above is also useful, went back and read the previous thread.
Such a simple thing, yet requires so much farting around.
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Like Harper I like knowing if the pressure is getting low. Also, I do plan on using the new 17" set more than just for winter driving. Considering all that and the fact I hate idiot warning lights reminding me daily that I am in fact a idiot (no need to rub it in) I do plan on getting a set of TPMS sensors.

Noted below is Harper's excellent info on what / where to buy.

But the question remains if the ATEQ TPMS QuickSet Tool is the only option? Its $ 150 which I don't think is too outrageous for how much I would be using it. The only other thing I found was the Bartek Reader which are about $ 1500. Yikes!

The other question I had is about TPMS and tire rotation. Seems that both ATEQ TPMS QuickSet Tool and Bartek Reader make a big deal about tire location. Does the TPMS system really care or know where each tire is located?


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There are only 4 wheel sensors as the spare doesn't have one. The TPMS on 5th Gens only accepts 4 any ways . Discount tire or most big tire stores will program them for free so skip the stealership . The sensors on our trucks are the PMV-107J to fit the 20 degree face of the wheels.
You can buy them on ebay for like $16 a piece compared to the dealerships $100 plus a piece. You will need the TPMS kits too and ours take the 20217'

They are correct PN's because I've bought 2 sets and just did this last month for another set of wheels. Programmed first time and took less then 5 minutes as I watched as the guy at Discount tire did it. They forgot the first time and I had to remind them. With the Bartek reader start at left front and go clockwise getting sn's from the transmitters at each each tire, plug the bartek into the IBD port ,hit enter, TPMS light on dash flahes twice and sets. Go's on if tire pressure is below ~26.5 psi I believe.Goes back out when you air them up.

Here are the sensors we use on Ebay..... (4) Toyota Landcruiser TPMS tire sensors PMV-107J - eBay (item 230648322022 end time Aug-15-11 19:58:09 PDT)

And here's the service kits,you'll need 4 ....... TPMS service replacement kit Toyota - eBay (item 170583942362 end time Aug-24-11 15:09:45 PDT)
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We shouldn't routinely be relying on TPMS sensors to tell us tire pressures are getting low. I'm not talking about sudden tire failures here - just routine pressure monitoring. By the time the pressure is low enough to close the sensor switch and give you the dash light, you've been wasting fuel and accelerating tire wear for weeks.

One of my other vehicles is a Legacy GT Spec B. On a Legacy forum, one guy bought a second TPMS module and mounted it in the car, on top of the original. When he installs his snows, he unplugs the original module and plugs in the new one, which is programmed for the snows. In the Spring, he plugs the original module back in. Not the cheapest approach, but it seems to work for him.
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I didn't bother with the sensors for my winter wheels/tires. Too costly for a few months. The TPMS light does come on, I just ignore it. It also resets every time I pull into the garage where the oems are stored.
I read this solution on another forum...you can buy the tire for a wheelbarrow (typically in the gardening section of the hardware store) and put the sensors inside the tire. Pump it up to 30psi and keep the tire somewhere in the vehicle. It may fit in the spare tire area. The spare may have a sensor so don't forget about that one too.

I've considered doing this on all my cars with TPMS. For the one time it worked as intended, there have been many more times that it went off bec of cold temperatures. And then there was the time my Dad drove on a flat for a few blocks and ruined a TPMS, which easily doubled the cost of the flat tire.
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