[rockhoundpaul]

I would really appreciate feedback from the community on this.... Just bought a new 2011 4R Trail. Love it, except the brakes. The pedal is soft, and lots of free play before brake engages, I can easily push it almost to the floor, and even more concerning is that to hold the truck at a stop, the brake pedal height is below the gas pedal. Kind of scares me that in an emergency, my foot may be on the brake and gas at the same time. Took it to dealer, they said that was normal. I am having lots of trouble with that, seems like a design defect to me.

Does anyone else with a 2011 have a similar observation or complaint??? How does your pedal feel????? Does it go below the gas pedal?????

Thanks

[SeattleMike]

Take it to another dealer. Mine does not behave like that.

[Froggy]

Originally Posted by SeattleMike

Take it to another dealer. Mine does not behave like that.

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[Ryan_S]

Yup. Mine is just below the gas pedal at a stop.

There is a snarky video around here somewhere of someone else's brake travel, coming from a sporty car I was not used to the brakes. But I am more comfortable with them now.

Go take a test drive of another 4R and see how that compares. That should give you a baseline for correct or not.

[andy24]

Originally Posted by Ryan_S

Yup. Mine is just below the gas pedal at a stop.

There is a snarky video around here somewhere of someone else's brake travel, coming from a sporty car I was not used to the brakes. But I am more comfortable with them now.

Go take a test drive of another 4R and see how that compares. That should give you a baseline for correct or not.

Here it is.
YouTube - Toyota 2010 4runner Brake Pedal

[wvbeachguy]

Originally Posted by rockhoundpaul

I would really appreciate feedback from the community on this.... Just bought a new 2011 4R Trail. Love it, except the brakes. The pedal is soft, and lots of free play before brake engages, I can easily push it almost to the floor, and even more concerning is that to hold the truck at a stop, the brake pedal height is below the gas pedal. Kind of scares me that in an emergency, my foot may be on the brake and gas at the same time. Took it to dealer, they said that was normal. I am having lots of trouble with that, seems like a design defect to me.

Does anyone else with a 2011 have a similar observation or complaint??? How does your pedal feel????? Does it go below the gas pedal?????

Thanks

I bought a 2011 SR5 and I am having the same problem and I am already concerned with the brakes. I haven't had a chance to take it to the dealer yet. When I have driven it, I felt like I had to ride the brakes. Twice the brakes got hot. I pulled into work and a coworker couldn't believe the smell. Will let you know when I take it in to the dealer.

[TrailHawk]

I have a 2011 TE. The brakes feel soft and less responsive compared to my last car, but nothing like you describe. They should feel and behave like truck brakes, which mine do.

[Aerostone]

Got a 2011 TE last month. Brakes are NOT soft and they are very responsive. I suggest you take it to the dealer.

[tlflow]

Originally Posted by rockhoundpaul

I would really appreciate feedback from the community on this.... Just bought a new 2011 4R Trail. Love it, except the brakes. The pedal is soft, and lots of free play before brake engages, I can easily push it almost to the floor, and even more concerning is that to hold the truck at a stop, the brake pedal height is below the gas pedal. Kind of scares me that in an emergency, my foot may be on the brake and gas at the same time. Took it to dealer, they said that was normal. I am having lots of trouble with that, seems like a design defect to me.

Does anyone else with a 2011 have a similar observation or complaint??? How does your pedal feel????? Does it go below the gas pedal?????

Thanks

My brakes feel a bit mushy initially, but tighten up pretty quick. In fact, I have engaged my brake assist twice once towing and once driving ca 40mph. It is a profoundly unpleasant experience. But, quite effective.

Take it back to the dealer and get them to check it out. Should stop like 4 disc when you stand on it.

[rjfowler]

Originally Posted by tlflow

It is a profoundly unpleasant experience. But, quite effective.

Best. Description. For Brake Assist. Ever. Can I get an AMEN?

[NYRunner]

Originally Posted by rjfowler

Best. Description. For Brake Assist. Ever. Can I get an AMEN?

HA! You beat me to it~

[dufreyne]

I have a 2011 4Runner-Limited. The brakes have 3 issues:
1. A little mushy
2. When braking, there is a split second when the brake releases and then re-engages. Not enough to affect the braking, but bothersome nonetheless.
3. Occasionally the brakes feel like there is something grinding.

I took it to my dealer who took it for a test ride and couldn't reproduce it. Then he had the service manager take it for a test ride and he couldn't reproduce it. Basically, they had no idea what I was talking about. They said that maybe I was not used to a 'electronic assist' brake with 4 wheel disc brakes.

I'm still a little nervous because the brakes are still this way.

Lee--

[joseivan]

Hi:

Today i felt something different when I was braking. I was running in an asphalt road that have a by level, just in the moment when I crossing from the soft pave to the rough I brake an I heard the grinding noise. But I try to reproduced again and nothings happens.

[brokerh22]

I have the same issues....did you ever get it resolved?

[Cabinetman]

When I read the title to this thread my first thought was, "Who in the heck in tracking their 4Runner?!?"

If I have confused those of you that don't spend much time around the race track I will offer an explanation. Trail braking is a common term in racing that basically means you stay on the brakes even after entering a turn so you can load up the front tires more to dial out some understeer.

Sorry for going off topic.