[bzizzi]

Dealer told me Toyota Japan has been busy with order on the final run of the 5th gen before production begin on the 6h gen. Dealer said people are buying the hell out of the 5th gen in all trim levels anticipating much higher prices and unproven
reliability. Dealer told me that most are already pre sold before they come in.
They are giving discounts on the 5th.

[jdm-v35]

Originally Posted by bzizzi

Dealer told me Toyota Japan has been busy with order on the final run of the 5th gen before production begin on the 6h gen. Dealer said people are buying the hell out of the 5th gen in all trim levels anticipating much higher prices and unproven
reliability. Dealer told me that most are already pre sold before they come in.
They are giving discounts on the 5th.

At this point in time between the 5th gen being outdated yet pretty expensive, and the 6th gen being overpriced and possibly not as reliable while still underpowered there are better options.

for an SUV I would look at a Bronco raptor or sasquatch; if open to a truck, ranger raptor or ZR2 bison. If willing to go bigger, f150 raptor or ram trx for a little more.

If I didn't have my 5th gen already and was currently shopping the market I would count toyota out of my list.

[honda250xtitan]

Originally Posted by jdm-v35

At this point in time between the 5th gen being outdated yet pretty expensive, and the 6th gen being overpriced and possibly not as reliable while still underpowered there are better options.

for an SUV I would look at a Bronco raptor or sasquatch; if open to a truck, ranger raptor or ZR2 bison. If willing to go bigger, f150 raptor or ram trx for a little more.

If I didn't have my 5th gen already and was currently shopping the market I would count toyota out of my list.

willing to go bigger AND pay double or almost triple the cost ;)

[jdm-v35]

Originally Posted by honda250xtitan

willing to go bigger AND pay double or almost triple the cost ;)

I doubt it will be double or triple the cost when these are the current Tacoma prices(with delivery fees; per other 4r forum and confirmed on toyotas site):


SR5 $41,895
TRD Sport $43,295
TRD Off-Road $43,295
Limited $53,595
Trailhunter $64,395
TRD Pro $65,395

I would think for a 4runner add 3k or more to all those prices to account for the extra cab space etc. I mean a trd pro sequoia is >80k

[bzizzi]

I have a 2018 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax for the heavy truck stuff, my 2024 5th gen should last me for quite a while.

[Offroad Alliance]

Let the market fizzle out and never be a first year model buyer. Go lease one for 3yr if youre wanting to buy one and drive through the problems of first year hiccups.

[///AIRDAM]

Originally Posted by jdm-v35

At this point in time between the 5th gen being outdated yet pretty expensive, and the 6th gen being overpriced and possibly not as reliable while still underpowered there are better options.

for an SUV I would look at a Bronco raptor or sasquatch;

"Meh Meh Toyota 4runner is over priced"
"Stinkin New one will be uber expensive"
"I'd rather look at a bronco raptor ($106,000) or a Bronco sasquatch ($69,825)"

WTF are you smokin?

[///AIRDAM]

Originally Posted by jdm-v35

I mean a trd pro sequoia is >80k

You say that, as if you are in disgust at the price, but you mentioned you'd like a Bronco Raptor which will tack on an additional +$20K over the price of said sequoia?

[jdm-v35]

Originally Posted by ///AIRDAM

"Meh Meh Toyota 4runner is over priced"
"Stinkin New one will be uber expensive"
"I'd rather look at a bronco raptor ($106,000) or a Bronco sasquatch ($69,825)"

WTF are you smokin?

The 4runner was a good value for what it is when it was in the 40k's a few years ago.

The new trd pro will probably be around 70k if the new tacoma is close to that. The Bronco Raptor may be a bit of a stretch but the sasquatch or a ranger raptor or zr2 bison is well within the same price range of the new 4runner/tacoma.

Bang for the buck it's also a better value.

As for the Sequoia, it is just expensive for what you get. Again just not a good value.

Don't get me wrong I love my 4runner and it is good for what it is, and it was a great value when I bought it for <40k brand new in 2018. I plan to keep mine but I think at this point there are better options at a close price point.

[honda250xtitan]

Originally Posted by jdm-v35

The 4runner was a good value for what it is when it was in the 40k's a few years ago.

The new trd pro will probably be around 70k if the new tacoma is close to that. The Bronco Raptor may be a bit of a stretch but the sasquatch or a ranger raptor or zr2 bison is well within the same price range of the new 4runner/tacoma.

Bang for the buck it's also a better value.

As for the Sequoia, it is just expensive for what you get. Again just not a good value.

Don't get me wrong I love my 4runner and it is good for what it is, and it was a great value when I bought it for <40k brand new in 2018. I plan to keep mine but I think at this point there are better options at a close price point.

even a frontier is 50k.

[///AIRDAM]

Originally Posted by honda250xtitan

even a frontier is 50k.

This is ___ _______'s america

[jdm-v35]

Originally Posted by honda250xtitan

even a frontier is 50k.

Thats an even worse value lol

[hoppyjr]

Originally Posted by jdm-v35

The 4runner was a good value for what it is when it was in the 40k's a few years ago.

The new trd pro will probably be around 70k if the new tacoma is close to that. The Bronco Raptor may be a bit of a stretch but the sasquatch or a ranger raptor or zr2 bison is well within the same price range of the new 4runner/tacoma.

Bang for the buck it's also a better value.

As for the Sequoia, it is just expensive for what you get. Again just not a good value.

Don't get me wrong I love my 4runner and it is good for what it is, and it was a great value when I bought it for <40k brand new in 2018. I plan to keep mine but I think at this point there are better options at a close price point.

Maybe.

I think “better value” has different meanings to different people. If you mean more features or more power, I’d agree with your assessment. If someone is seeking durability and reliability, I’d argue the Toyota is a better value.

I could have purchased a Bronco and I do think they look cool and have bells & whistles, but I wanted something as close to an old school Land Cruiser as I could get, so I have a 2022 4Runner Off Road Premium. I think long term it’s a better value.

[wing2]

I got my 2024 SR5 Premium last Thursday. I think the new one is going to be very cool, but I wanted the proven reliability. Nice looking rig in my opinion also.



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[jdm-v35]

Originally Posted by hoppyjr

Maybe.

I think “better value” has different meanings to different people. If you mean more features or more power, I’d agree with your assessment. If someone is seeking durability and reliability, I’d argue the Toyota is a better value.

I could have purchased a Bronco and I do think they look cool and have bells & whistles, but I wanted something as close to an old school Land Cruiser as I could get, so I have a 2022 4Runner Off Road Premium. I think long term it’s a better value.

I don't disagree with you there which is why I'm keeping my 5th gen forever. It's reliable and does everything I need it to do. At the time I got it there was not much competition and it had a good balance of feature and reliability, but if I was shopping now, it is hard to ignore current competition having way more power, and features like factory front and rear lockers, 35+ tires and sway bar disconnects from the factory.

As for the future model, I am not sure if reliability will be a selling point anymore. We will have to see how it is long term; but if it's like the current tundra probably not as solid as the 5th gen.