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Old 09-17-2021, 09:27 AM #7981
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I'm with you too, but it's because of demand right now. The dealers knows someone else will buy it real quick.

The prices people are willing to pay for a 4runner right now blow my mind. Most people paid 8-10% below MSRP prior to the summer of 2020. Now people are paying MSRP and more. That's like a $5,000-7,000 swing.
Agreed. This is a matter of supply and demand. Due to materials shortages, Toyota has just announced a 40% reduction in their production plans for the 4th quarter. I’m in the automotive materials business, and we are currently struggling with the demand for our nylon. We have customers on allocation and prices are double what they were in 2020.

On the positive side, if you have a trade-in that is in high demand, you can pretty much offset the high price of the 4Runner. I have an 2019 Audi Q8 with 20K miles, and I’m getting just about the amount I paid when I bought that car. This car was a demo and I bought it in May of 2020 at a bargain price. Dealers did not know what was going to happen with the economy and were dumping their inventory.

Regarding delivery, I spoke to my Toyota dealer, and he is so sure my 4R will arrive that he wants me to go ahead with the paperwork a week before it gets here. I have the VIN and the list of options, so I’m pretty confident about it being for real. Dealer did say that new orders for 4R will probably not deliver until November or December.
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That’s wild.

Obviously we are facing the same constraints here in Canada, but dealers here aren’t trying to soak their customers by going over MSRP or making overpriced tint a condition of sale. It’s pretty much order and wait.

I guess if the market there bears it, the dealers will do it.

Edit: I will add though that the extended warranty here is waaaay overpriced compared to the USA.
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Old 09-17-2021, 11:52 AM #7983
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I just bought a new 2021 TRD ORP with the "XP Predator" cool guy package here in Florida, there was a standing $5k markup on all the new vehicles on the lot - I bought the only 4wd 4Runner they had (of 4 total) and the lot was 90% empty, as has been mentioned elsewhere. Manager said (grain of salt) the next TRD coming to the lot was about two and a half months away, according to the dealer allocations. On top of the Covid and production limitations, it's hurricane season down here, so more potential delays in deliveries and new stock.

Like 3xranger said, the used car market helps offset the cost of a new model. On a trade, I was actually able to get $5k MORE than I paid new for my '18 F-150 with about 45k miles thanks to the massive Ford rebates from a few years ago, and negotiated to MSRP for the new 4Runner. Very happy with the out the door price considering all the options and upgrades that will prevent me from spending on my own upgrades..for now. Planning to lean on Toyota reliability over my Ford Ecoboost gremlins and keep this for the long term.

Total MSRP with the ORP plus XP Predator / TOYOGuard Platinum / Mats / 4 Year Maintenance Package was $48,500, dealer market adjustment made it $53,500 on paper.

For perspective, dealer had a used and stock 2017 TRD ORP with 35k miles on it for $45k on the sticker price. Crazy times.
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Old 09-17-2021, 03:04 PM #7984
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Yesterday Alexandria Toyota locked me in for a 2022 TRD ProLine Rush for MSRP. Taxes tags freight brought it to $56.5k otd. My buddy got a similar otd. Might change to the 22 Tundra depending on the engine reveal this weekend
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*****update*****

Just got a call from my Toyota dealer. New 2022 ORP in lunar rock coming in Tuesday of next week. I’m going in on Monday to fill out the paperwork.

Dealer told me they got a 2022 ORP in army green today. He said that one was being fixed with lots of dealer installed upgrades including a lift. The price for that one was going to get north of $63,000 Anyway, I will provide updates….

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Just put money down on a white TRD ORP and got it out the door for 47k plus ttl.
MSRP with their BS mandatory port add on's was $47,370.
Only option was was the Premium Plus Multi Terrain monitor, ......No sun roof, sliding tray or side steps and the way he wanted it.
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Old 09-18-2021, 09:19 AM #7987
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Just put deposit '22 ORP with KDSS and XP package. Didn't really want KDSS but that is all they have. $52102 plus doc fee. 10 days out.
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Just put deposit '22 ORP with KDSS and XP package. Didn't really want KDSS but that is all they have. $52102 plus doc fee. 10 days out.
Congrats. What color did you get? If I lived in Vermont, with resale values what they are, I too would consider trading in one as new as a ‘20 given the corrosion concerns.
Hopefully you will end up liking the KDSS.
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Congrats. What color did you get? If I lived in Vermont, with resale values what they are, I too would consider trading in one as new as a ‘20 given the corrosion concerns.
Hopefully you will end up liking the KDSS.

You're having corrosion concerns on your 2020?


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I am not and while to get to I-5 the roads require chains, on the coast there is no real snow to speak of.
Just looking at some of the other threads on here about how their 5-6 year old T4R’s, seems to be a recurring theme. Not that all are cars are affected or that some do a better job of mitigating rust.
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Congrats. What color did you get? If I lived in Vermont, with resale values what they are, I too would consider trading in one as new as a ‘20 given the corrosion concerns.
Hopefully you will end up liking the KDSS.
I got white, that is all they had. I moved to NC about 5 years ago because of the frigid cold. We will see on kdss. Not completely sold on it but it was on the sticker and had to pay sticker price. Can't believe I paid 52000 for a 4runner. :wtf
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Just got a call from my Toyota dealer. New 2022 ORP in lunar rock coming in Tuesday of next week. I’m going in on Monday to fill out the paperwork.

Dealer told me they got a 2022 ORP in army green today. He said that one was being fixed with lots of dealer installed upgrades including a lift. The price for that one was going to get north of $63,000 Anyway, I will provide updates….
Just got the call!!!! Car is at the dealership. Picking up my 2022 ORP in Lunar Rock this coming Monday.
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Just put deposit '22 ORP with KDSS and XP package. Didn't really want KDSS but that is all they have. $52102 plus doc fee. 10 days out.
you will like kdds........its worth the money
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I got white, that is all they had. I moved to NC about 5 years ago because of the frigid cold. We will see on kdss. Not completely sold on it but it was on the sticker and had to pay sticker price. Can't believe I paid 52000 for a 4runner. :wtf

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…. Can't believe I paid 52000 for a 4runner. :wtf….
I cant believe anyone would pay $52k for a 4Runner
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