Absolutely correct. Some will rub with a stock sized 265 AT tire, solemnly go 275 and don’t rub at all. They’re all a little different. I stuffed 295s under mine at one point with a 1.5” lift, no BMC, no rubbing. According to that chart, that’s impossible though.

What is the tire size to run on a 17x8.5 (0 offset)?

Will that wheel and tire setup rub or have clearance issues with a 2 inch lift all around on a TRDP?

Does anybody know whether the following will rub on a 2021 stock Limited?

17x8.5 -6mm offset - MB Wheels Legacy Wheels | Multi-Spoke Machined Truck Rims Wheels | Discount Tire Direct

265/70/17 (stock) Toyo AT3s

I'm switching from 20" stock wheels to 17" and like the slightly wider stance of those wheels, but don't want anything to rub.

The following link compares the wheel and tire sizes: Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit

It seems like the backspacing is almost exactly the same (~4.5in), but the tire sticks about 1.5 inches out.

I've seen a lot of conflicting data on whether stock tires will rub on 8.5 inch wheels...

Hi all, just got a black 2019 TRD Off Road preimium. I am NOT a techie ! So forgive my noobiness,

I want to give the new ride a more aggressive look, with a little higher lift without adding spacers. I see the tire fit graphic but let me ask so I am clear and do not have unrealistic expectations and go in the right direction:

Will 275/70/17 tires fit without any issues, will they give that look I am seeking and do any of you have preferred brands that you really have liked that give the look and maintain solid on road performance ? ( my off road is limited to dirt road hauling my kayaks )

Thanks !

Rob

Without actually looking at the specs from a manufacturer for a specific tire, the size tire you are referencing is about a half an inch taller than the stock tires on a 4Runner. It would be a pretty good bet they would fit without any problem. As for the look that is subjective, and I cannot answer that question for you. I personally think you are not going to be able to tell all that much difference between those tires and stock.

I have a 2017 SR5 Premium with TRD wheels, and put 275/70/17 Falkens on them with only a slight rub in reverse at full lock, which was resolved with a fender liner mod (really easy).

My guess is you will be fine, and at worst should need a small fender liner modification. I would suggest putting your wheels at full lock in each direction and slowly reverse while a friend looks at your tires (and takes pics?) as you move to see how much clearance you have. Should be pretty obvious.

I could not read all of this thread, but what I did nots ee mentioned is that chart is intended for "a perfect world". No two tire manufacturers make the same height, width, shape, sidewall, tread width, nothing, so what may work with one wheel/tire combo, may not work with another. The tire engineers work within a specific set fo parameters to achieve "industry standards" but everyone is different.

Now compare the profile of the same tire, say the BFG KO2 A/T 265/70/17.

C load will have a slightly different profile that an E.

Now that same C will have a different profile at say 14psi while offroad, than it will at 34psi on the road. Same with the E. It wont be the same as the C at either psi.

Now take a P rated A/T 265/70/17. Again, it will be different due to its type of manufacturing and ratings.

Just remember there is nothing set in stone about a tires size. Only guidelines. My advice on this too is that when you are selecting tires, go to the manufacturers website for actual tire sizes (example - KO2's notoriously run shorter than other tires in the same categories) to know closer to what you are actually getting when mounted and on the vehicle.

Here is a list I put together for a project that outlines most fo the 285's on the US market. What is usually considered a 33" tire, you can see the variables across different loads and manufacturers.

Tire Brand - 285/70/17 Size Type Diameter Width Rim Range

BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KO2 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
BFGoodrich All Terrain T/A KM2 285/70/17 A/T 33 11.5 7.5-9

Nitto Terra Grappler G2 285/70/17 P 32.6 11.5 7.5-9
Nitto Terra Grappler G2 285/70/17 A/T 32.76 11.5 7.5-9.5
Nitto Terra Grappler 285/70/17 A/T 32.76 11.5 7.5-9
Nitto Dura Grappler 285/70/17 H 32.79 11.49 7.5-9.5
Nitto Dune Grappler 285/70/17 A/T 32.64 11.73 7.5-9
Nitto Ridge Grappler 285/70/17 A/T 32.76 11.5 7.5-9
Nitto Ridge Grappler 285/70/17 A/T 32.76 11.5 7.5-9
Nitto Exo Grappler 285/70/17 A/T 32.99 11.5 7.5-9
Nitto Trail Grappler M/T 285/70/17 M/T 32.99 11.5 7.5-9
Nitto Trail Grappler M/T 285/70/17 M/T 33.15 11.81 7.5-9
Nitto Trail Grappler M/T

Yokohama Geolander A/T S 285/70/17 A/T 33.1 11.5 7.5-9
Yokohama Geolander A/T G015 285/70/17 A/T 32.9 11.3 7.5-9
Yokohama Geolander A/T G015 285/70/17 P 32.8 11.2 7.5-9.5
Yokohama Geolander M/T Plus 285/70/17 M/T 32.9 8.9 7.5-9
Yokohama Geolander M/T G003 285/70/17 M/T 32.9 11.6 7.5-9

Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 285/75/17 A/T 34 11.6 7.5-9.5
Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 285/70/17 A/T 33 11.6 7.5-9
Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 285/70/17 P 32.8 11.3 7.5-9.5
Falken Wildpeak M/T 285/70/17 M/T 32.9 11.4 7.5-9

Firestone Destination Special Edition 285/70/17 P 32.8 11.5 7.5-9.5
Firestone Destination A/T 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Firestone Destination A/T 285/70/17 P 32.8 11.5 7.5-9.5
Firestone Transforce AT2 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-918/32
Federal Couragia M/T 285/70/17 M/T 33.1 11.3 8-9

Atturo Trail Blade X/T 285/70/17 M/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
Sumimoto Encounter AT 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 12 7.5-9
Sumimoto Encounter AT 285/70/17 P 32.9 11.7 7.5-8.5

Kuhmo Road Ventuer MT51 285/70/17 M/T NA NA 7.5-9
Kuhmo Venture AT KL78 285/70/17 M/T 32.7 11.5 8.5
Kuhmo Road Ventuer AT51 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9

Mastercraft Courser AXT 285/70/17 A/T 32.76 11.7 7.5-9
Mastercraft Courser AXT 285/70/17 P 32.76 11.4 7.5-9
Mastercraft Courser CXT 285/70/1\ A/T 33.07 11.5 7.5-9
Mastercraft Courser MXT 285/70/17 M/T 32.91 11.5 7.5-9

Continental TerrainContact A/T 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
Milestar Patagonia M/T 285/70/17 M/T 32.9 11.5 7.5-9.5
Milestar Patagonia A/T 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Milestar Grantland 285/70/65 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Milestar Patagoina 280/70/17 A/T

Cooper Discover AT3 285/70/17 A/T 32.83 11.4 7.5-9
Cooper Discover ATP 285/70/17 A/T 32.83 11.4 7.5-9.5
Cooper Discover AT3 285/70/17 P 32.76 11.5 7.5-9.5
Cooper Discover A/TW 285/70/17 A/T 32.83 11.4 7.5-9
Cooper Discover A/TW 285/70/17 P 32.76 11.5 7.5-9.5
Cooper Discover STT Pro 285/70/17 M/T 33.3 11.5 7.5-9
Cooper Discover MTP 285/70/17 M/T 32.91 11.5 7.5-9
Cooper Discover ST MAXX 285/70/17 A/T 32.99 11.5 7.5-9
Cooper Zeon LTZ 285/70/17 A/T 32.71 11.35 7.5-9

Goodyear Wrangler TrailRunner A/T 285/70/17 A/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Goodyear Wrangler DuraTrac 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Goodyear All-Terrain Adventure Kevlar 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlar 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9

Kenda Klever A/T 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 8-9.5

Ironman All Country
Adventuro AT3
Westlake SL369
Travelstar AZ701



Toyo Open Country H/T 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.7 7.5-9
Toyo Open Country H/T 285/70/17 P 32.7 11.4 7.5-9.5
Toyo Open Country A/T II 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Toyo Open Country A/T II 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Toyo Open Country A/T II 285/70/17 P 32.8 11.5 7.5-9.5
Toyo Open Country R/T 285/70/17 A/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Toyo Open Country M/T 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
285/70/17
Bridgestone A/T Revo 2 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Bridgestone A/T Revo 2 285/70/17 P 32.8 11.5 7.5-9.5
Bridgestone Dueler H/T 685 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Nexen Roadian AT Pro RA8 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Mickey Thompson Deegan 38 All-Terrain 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.4 7.5-9
Mickey Thompson Baja STZ 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.4 7.5-9
Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ P3 285/70/17 A/T 33 11.5 7.5-9

Pirelli Scorpion ATR 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.2 7-9
Fierce Atitude A/T 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9

General Tire Grabber 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
Geneal Grabber AT2 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
General Grabber X3 285/70/17 M/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9
General Tire Altimax Arctic 285/70/17 W 32.7 11.5 7-5

Hankook Dynapro ATM 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.6 7.5-9.5
Hankook Dynapro M/T 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Dick Cepek Trail Country 285/70/17 M/T 32.8 11.6 7.5-9
Dick Cepek Extreme Country 285/70/17 M/T 32.8 11.7 7.5-9
Dick Cepek Fun Country 285/70/17 A/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Dick Cepek Baja MTZ P3 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Maxxis Bighorn 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.7 7.5-9
Maxxis RAZR MT 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.8 7.5-9
Interco IROK ND 285/70/17 M/T 32.8 11.3 7.5-9
Interco Vortrac 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 12.3 7.5-9.5
ProComp A/T Sport 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.4 7.5-9
ProComp Xtreme MT2 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.8 7.5-9

Michelin LTX M/S2 285/70/17 H 32.8 11.5 7.5-9
Michelin Defender LTX M/S 285/70/17 H 32.7 11.5 7.5-9

Centennial Terra Commander M/T 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9
Centennial Terra Trooper A/T 285/70/17 A/T 32.8 11.4 7.5-9.5
Centennial Terra Commander M/T 285/70/17 M/T 33 11.5 7.5-9

BWT Ranger 285/70/17 A/T 32.7 11.5 7.5-9

Americus A/T 285/70/17 A/T NA NA

The tallest was the Cooper Discover STT Pro 285/70/17 M/T at 33.3"

The shortest was the Nitto Terra Grappler G2 285/70/17 P 32.6"

So even the same "sized" tire, isnt so much the same.

Here's my tire fitment guides

Thx for this post, very helpful!

Does the model matter? Do some have more clearance then others? I have a 2021 TRDP and I intend to keep it stock. Looks like the biggest I can go is 285 without any adjustments or problems?

You're not going to clear a 285 without rubbing which will require cutting. One cut for clearance, it'll be pure street use only, no off road use otherwise you'll rub everywhere.

Hey all,

So, I've read through a bunch of this thread and it seems like the general consensus is that it varies 4R to 4R. Hoping someone has a similar setup as me and could provide insight.

Firstly, I do plan to lift the front end a bit more in the near future BUT I am currently sitting at 1.75 inches up front with stock UCAs. Will be putting 2.5in Dobinson coils with UCAs soon. Wheels are Method 316s 17x8.5 with 0 offset on KO2 265s. With sales going on for labor day, I was going to pick up some Cooper AT3 XLT 285s. The 265s have a comfortable amount of room and it seems like all I'll need to do is remove the front mudflaps and do a little bumper trimming and I should be fine.

Anyone have anything similar? Thoughts?

I’m sitting on just over 2” of front lift and run a -10 offset wheel. I do not rub at all with 285’s. I also have my caster at close to 5 degrees with Ironman UCA’s.


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