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Plenty of torque and acceleration in this vehicle!
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03-08-2014, 07:46 AM
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I've got mine trained pretty well.
When I come to a hill I press the gas just a little bit, but very quickly, and the transmission immediately downshifts a gear and holds it until I back off on the throttle a bit.
Whenever I'm not on the highway I'm in Sport Mode 4. Keeps the tranny from bogging the engine in 5th gear everywhere.
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03-08-2014, 09:56 AM
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I've got mine trained pretty well.
When I come to a hill I press the gas just a little bit, but very quickly, and the transmission immediately downshifts a gear and holds it until I back off on the throttle a bit.
Whenever I'm not on the highway I'm in Sport Mode 4. Keeps the tranny from bogging the engine in 5th gear everywhere.
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This, exactly. I've learned how to drive mine, and this is it. Anyone complaining about performance just hasn't learned how to get it.
BTW, this is not a performance vehicle folks.
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03-08-2014, 10:23 AM
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My 993 911 could hit 60 in 5.3 seconds, one second slower than the current 991 C2. This truck requires 7.7, and the Lexus GX with a V8 needs 6.8. Slow is a relative term. Slow is my half-brother. Or James May. Slow is not 7.7 seconds.
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03-08-2014, 12:19 PM
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This kind of sums it up from Four Wheeler magazine 4x4 of the year competition.
The 4.0L V-6 engine seemed lackadaisical in general driving, but came alive nicely when the engine was spooled up into its powerband
2014 Four Wheeler of the Year - Four Wheeler Magazine
Unfortunately the power is in the high rpm range and not at lower rpm better suited for a heavy bof vehicle.
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03-08-2014, 12:49 PM
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I'm in "sport" mode all the time. Never have power issues. My yota sees me coming and thinks "here comes that maniac again" I think she has learned my driving habits and gets up and goes when I give the command.
This is one awesome rig. Love it! However, that said , my gas mileage is crap.
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03-08-2014, 12:53 PM
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I started this exact thread less than 2 weeks ago, and got a few butthurt responses. Yea the performance is a bit disappointing but it does get better. Could be that its learning my driving or that i'm getting used to the slowness, or possibly im learning how to drive it to get more out of it. I drove a new 2014 Chevy 4X4 crew silverado 5.3 the other day and wow its a ton faster, heavier, and gets better gas mileage.
I didn't dog the runner during my test drive because i had an 05 that was plenty fast and i had no clue they had made the vehicle slower.
Once you floor it , it does scoot, but you kinda have to drive it like you stole it.
Anyway, i bought the 4runner for relaibility so i'm happy overall, i really like the interior. I know 2 people who bought a Grand cherokee, both have had reliability issues. One was repurchased by Jeep because it was in the shop 3 time for a tranny leak that was never resolved
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03-08-2014, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dekeman
My 993 911 could hit 60 in 5.3 seconds, one second slower than the current 991 C2. This truck requires 7.7, and the Lexus GX with a V8 needs 6.8. Slow is a relative term. Slow is my half-brother. Or James May. Slow is not 7.7 seconds.
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Those numbers are for 2WD. Add another second for 4WD then even more for the Trail Edition so it's more like 8.7 and 9.0. One article I read had the 4WD at 9.0 and 17.1 for a 1/4 mile during one of their comparison tests.
Other cars that run the same time in 0-60. (8.7)
CR-V AWD
Nissan Versa
Kia Rio
Yaris
Seqouia 6.5
Corolla S 8.5
Yes, many are happy with the power, but obviously some aren't.
It's too bad there's no TRD super charger option. That would probably fill in the performance gap for many.
I know if they did come out with one I'd probably look at a Gen 5...
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03-08-2014, 05:18 PM
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Those numbers are for 2WD. Add another second for 4WD then even more for the Trail Edition so it's more like 8.7 and 9.0.
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Why would you think the Trail was slower? The added 5 lbs of the locker, or the extra 1/2 pound of switches and wiring in the O/H console?
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03-08-2014, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WillK
Those numbers are for 2WD. Add another second for 4WD then even more for the Trail Edition so it's more like 8.7 and 9.0. One article I read had the 4WD at 9.0 and 17.1 for a 1/4 mile during one of their comparison tests.
Other cars that run the same time in 0-60. (8.7)
CR-V AWD
Nissan Versa
Kia Rio
Yaris
Seqouia 6.5
Corolla S 8.5
Yes, many are happy with the power, but obviously some aren't.
It's too bad there's no TRD super charger option. That would probably fill in the performance gap for many.
I know if they did come out with one I'd probably look at a Gen 5...
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Dream on 4th gen owner. Why do you and 034X4Runner even come into this section to post? Wanna make sure we have our facts right? Go test drive one please. Some of you guys never give up do you?
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03-08-2014, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WillK
Those numbers are for 2WD. Add another second for 4WD then even more for the Trail Edition so it's more like 8.7 and 9.0. One article I read had the 4WD at 9.0 and 17.1 for a 1/4 mile during one of their comparison tests.
Other cars that run the same time in 0-60. (8.7)
CR-V AWD
Nissan Versa
Kia Rio
Yaris
Seqouia 6.5
Corolla S 8.5
Yes, many are happy with the power, but obviously some aren't.
It's too bad there's no TRD super charger option. That would probably fill in the performance gap for many.
I know if they did come out with one I'd probably look at a Gen 5...
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What did I just read...?
Did you even drive one? My 4X4 limited is certainly not a 9 seconds 0-60 vehicle.
See this 4X4 4runner doing it in 7 seconds.
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03-08-2014, 07:29 PM
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Our instrumented tests on a 2011 SR5 4WD ran 8.4 to 60 mph consistently. The more important 80 km/h to 120 km/h for passing was 6.5 seconds. Braking from 100 km/h was 44.2 meters.
The V6 Jeep Gran Cherokee, by comparison, ran to 60 in 10.2. and mustered the 80-120km in 8.0, stopping in 44.4. So, slower.
Our Kia Rio required 10.1 seconds to 60.
Our Honda CR-V required 9.6.
Yes, my earlier 7.7 was off, the stat was unspecified (we only get 4WD in Canada) but the conclusion remains unchanged.
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03-08-2014, 07:40 PM
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Slow slow acceleration!
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Originally Posted by WillK
Those numbers are for 2WD. Add another second for 4WD then even more for the Trail Edition so it's more like 8.7 and 9.0. One article I read had the 4WD at 9.0 and 17.1 for a 1/4 mile during one of their comparison tests.
Other cars that run the same time in 0-60. (8.7)
CR-V AWD
Nissan Versa
Kia Rio
Yaris
Seqouia 6.5
Corolla S 8.5
Yes, many are happy with the power, but obviously some aren't.
It's too bad there's no TRD super charger option. That would probably fill in the performance gap for many.
I know if they did come out with one I'd probably look at a Gen 5...
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Where the hell did you find a mid 8 second Yaris? Your numbers are cherry picked. CR shows the 5th gen 4Runner on par with an Ecoboost and V8 F150 (which are ape raped by the 5.7 Tundra, btw). Being 4WD won't add a full second to the 0-60 time either. It doesn't apply that much drag to the drivetrain.
The biggest thing Toyota could do is get another gear in the gearbox. There is a no-man's land between 3rd and 4th where you find yourself if you try to moderately accelerate at lower speeds. If you goose it, it kicks down to 3rd and you get excellent acceleration. Moderate pedal application leaves you in that lull where you are in 4th at low RPM. Rev the thing out. We durability test GR engines at redline for hundreds of hours. You won't break it.
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03-08-2014, 08:07 PM
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What did I just read...?
Did you even drive one? My 4X4 limited is certainly not a 9 seconds 0-60 vehicle.
See this 4X4 4runner doing it in 7 seconds.
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Actually, you're Runner is going to be the slowest of Gen 5's, and here's why... 20" wheels add parasitic weight, and third row seats adds even more, so it's very possible that you're at 9 seconds especially if you're in a higher altitude.
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Where the hell did you find a mid 8 second Yaris? Your numbers are cherry picked. CR shows the 5th gen 4Runner on par with an Ecoboost and V8 F150 (which are ape raped by the 5.7 Tundra, btw). Being 4WD won't add a full second to the 0-60 time either. It doesn't apply that much drag to the drivetrain.
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Come on man... Are you really saying that the Gen 5 is as quick as the Tundra 5.7?? Do you really believe that? If you do, I'm sad for you. Anything you say after that loses its validity as that's so far from the truth I'm sad for you.
And yes, the 4WD would easily add a second to a vehicle that doesn't make it's torque until 4,400 rpms and it's a heavy vehicle. The added weight alone is easily 100 pounds. In the race world, that .10 in the 1/4.
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03-08-2014, 08:14 PM
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Slow slow acceleration!
Reread what I wrote. I said it was Ecoboost/coyote quick. The 5.7 tundra is about 1 sec quicker to 60 than the EB, coyote, and 5th gen.
You act like it makes 0 lbft of torque until 4400 rpm. Peak is at 4400 rpm. IIRC, the torque curve is like a double hump on this version of the 1GR. I'll have to look at the TIS again to confirm. Either way, in a 0-60 run, you probably drop to 3500+ rpm when you shift from 1st to 2nd at redline. What it does below that doesn't matter on a 0-60 run (or even a quarter mile) except for the first pass through the RPM range in 1st gear.
100lbs adds .1 sec to the quarter mile but a full second to 60? Hmmmm....
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