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One of the better SUV reviews
So a lot of the car/truck/SUV reviews out there these days are pretty boiler plate and possibly stacked depending on the publication you might find them in.
Being a diesel fan (most of us euro-trash is), I came across a review for the JGC diesel on foxnews.com and had a read. Not a whole lot of surprises there, but there was a reasonably fair assessment of the power/mileage pro's and the cost cons. However, I thought the real gem was how the review was actually written. 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel Test Drive | Fox News
By Gary Gastelu | Car Report | Published March 14, 2014
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Unfortunately, while this engine has plenty going for it, you’ll pay plenty to get it. The diesel is a steep $4,500-$5000 premium over the V6, and costs $1,305 more than the V8, but you can recoup the latter at the pump in about a year. Sooner if you take a couple of long road trips.
Let me suggest one.
According to Google Maps, the most direct route between the off-road meccas of Moab, Utah, and California’s Rubicon trail covers 729 miles. The maximum range of the Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel is 730 miles between fill-ups.
As I said, pack a lunch.
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It gave me a chuckle... and a desire to pack a lunch.....
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03-14-2014, 03:05 PM
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And for the flip-side of the diesel conversation....
Paris's Smog Has Gotten So Bad, It's Making Public Transportation Free
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(Though Reuters seems to have found one Parisian who doesn't mind. "My lungs are already polluted by cigarettes, so I don't really care," Sophie Boisseau, 29. Not sure that's how it works, but okay, you Europeans.)
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03-14-2014, 03:32 PM
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03-14-2014, 03:33 PM
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"Unfortunately, while this engine has plenty going for it, you’ll pay plenty to get it. The diesel is a steep $4,500-$5000 premium over the V6, and costs $1,305 more than the V8, but you can recoup the latter at the pump in about a year. Sooner if you take a couple of long road trips."
While I'm not calling BS on the author, his recoup statement is a stretch.... possible? still a stretch.
Sounds like he's comparing to the Hemi, assuming over 50,000 HIGHWAY miles per year, and a minimal difference in diesel/gas cost.
Aaaaannnnnnd, here come the diesel fanboys.
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According to Google Maps, the most direct route between the off-road meccas of Moab, Utah, and California’s Rubicon trail covers 729 miles. The maximum range of the Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel is 730 miles between fill-ups.
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you do realize that 730 mile range is probably best scenario on highway flat highway @ 55 probably.
off roading never gets that remotely close in mpg 
pack some good hiking shoes/boots with that lunch.
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According to Google Maps, the most direct route between the off-road meccas of Moab, Utah, and California’s Rubicon trail covers 729 miles. The maximum range of the Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel is 730 miles between fill-ups.
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It's funny that he implies that someone buying a JGC would actually take it to Moab or on the Rubicon.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL this one says it all!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7CbNn0cnUQ
BTW, I have owned every generation including the latest of JGC and every single one has needed lots of work.
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lol 2 of those videos have the same issue, no speed/odometer count.
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not to offend people that have to deal with "epileptic seizures" but it looks like that jeep is having one.
latest and greatest has its place in certain things, but at least toyota is slow and steady and it shows by issues/volume compare to other brands. i would love to have a 8" or 12" center dash screen, but i rather have tested and reliable and old stuff than sit in a dealer repair shop or side of the road.
i was looking at a durango with all the bells/whistles and i was like "Squirrel" but then once i walk out and come to my senses, i realize, i just want to get in and drive and not have to deal with that crap. too old to deal with it in a daily driver.
now if i had a sports car, i would understand.
edit : i would also like to add, its sad when the warden's 2012 tacoma v6 DCab has a better/softer ride over city bumps than my 2010 4 door subaru legacy sedan.
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Ofc: Do you know how fast you were going?
2014 WK2 Owner: No sir, I have a 2014 Chrysler product with a non working speedo
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Lemon - YouTube
2014 Jeep Cherokee Problems #1 - YouTube
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQKjvFyGbls
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The mileage to fuel/engine upgrade cost ratio of the diesel will in no way pay itself off in a year! I just don't believe it. Most definitely not on average miles driven of 12-15k per year.
LOL HOLY crap i just saw one where the instrument cluster had failed while driving WTF!?
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And to think I was actually considering another Grand Cherokee after having owned two of them. (WJs) But my dear wife reminded me of something that I had said a few years earlier.
I had come in the house ranting and raving and using lots of profanity after working on the Jeep, and must have said something like "never let my buy another something profane Jeep again!"
Well she remembered and asked me to look for something else when I started looking for a new work car. I did some research and decided the 4Runner would be a good choice for me.
Thank you wife, the 4Runner has been so far trouble free for 71k miles.
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