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Just pulled the trigger on 5100’s all round, ToyTech 2 1/2 springs upfront & OME 2” outback. Had wheeler’s assemble front struts. Also got a dif drop kit.
Hope the wife doesn’t hate it. I’ll post results after install.
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Other than the diff drop is there anything else I should as a result of this ’11 SR5 lift?
Would you recomend longer break lines for this lift? One guy at Wheeler’s thought I’d need new breaklines if I was going to use “all of the suspension travel”, another guy at Wheeler’s told me new break lines were only required over 3” of lift.
When does one need a bigger upper control arm? I see alot of folks here w/ hard core - high-end lift kits w/ Cambourg or Total Chaos. I am not a hardcore off-roader, racer or rock-crawler by any means.
Wheeler’s thought a good alighnment immediatly after the lift is needed & should do the trick. Do you agree? I’ll replace the tires latter this spring most likley.
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02-21-2016, 09:54 AM
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Shouldn't need a diff drop until you go over 3".
Same with extended brake lines.
UCA's while not required are a good option because the taller you go the more difficulty a tech will have getting alignment within spec.
An alignment would be required as part of the installation because you are changing the suspension geometry.
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02-21-2016, 10:23 AM
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Shouldn't need a diff drop until you go over 3".
Same with extended brake lines.
UCA's while not required are a good option because the taller you go the more difficulty a tech will have getting alignment within spec.
An alignment would be required as part of the installation because you are changing the suspension geometry.
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Thanks Bro.
Wheeler’s said the diff drop wasn’t a nescesity but it would limit the wear and therefore extend the life.
They (i.e., Wheeler’s) didn’t even mention UCA. Man they are expensive. The cheapest I saw on Wheeler’s site was “Light Racing” and they were $482. Most were $650 plus. Camborg had a kit for $529 w/ Moog ball joints pre-installed that looked pretty good. From reading the discription, along w/ making alignment easier, apparently they allow more suspensions travel and give "more tire & shock clearance”. Are these an issue at 2 1/2”? From reading the manufacturer’s description, replacing the UCA does more than allowing better alignment, they apparently maximise the benifit of spending the $ on the lift.
Would it make sense to see if they can get it into aligment before spending that $ or would you recomend just going for it now? This was a cost I hadn’t planned on. It will also add to the install cost too. On the otherhand, I don’t want to be penny-wise & dollar foolish.
Please advise.
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02-21-2016, 11:36 AM
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^if you keep your lift between 2-2.5", a competent alignment tech should be able to keep it in spec without UCAs. I'm at 2.5" lift and have no issues. But if you have intention of going higher like I plan to, then just get everything you need now.
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Thanks mag. I'll stick to 2 1/2". The manufacture's product dis rioting of the Camborg w/ Moog ball joints claimed that there are other Benifits to that UCA beyond the alignment that allows full benifit of suspension height, implying w/ out it I'm limited in travel. Is there any truth to that? Can't afford to spend money I don't need to but also want to do it right and not have regrets down the road.
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I believe for everyday use, it wouldn't matter. If you wheel often as a sport, you would benefit. The UCA will allow better articulation. I'll be honest, I'm only considering the UCA because of looks since I'm yay high with the Icon overland and not diggin the current look. I had SAW but was too low when loaded. Question would be, what do you plan to do with your 4Runner and how high you honestly want the lift to be? But if you have the funds, just get it and be over with it or if you have 100k + miles, I would also consider getting it.
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I am not a hardcore off-roader, racer or rock-crawler by any means.
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I'm basing my recommendations off this. If I had the money to spend I'd have gone full Icon stage 3 or better. Just to say I did! Lol.
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Thanks guys.
I’ll call Wheeler’s tomorrow. Prolly don’t really “need” it. The way I’m thinking about it is this.The vehicle currently has 55k on it. I’m basially replacing the whole suspension w/ new parts. Since the UCA seems to be a weak point on a lifted truck, ball joints are wear items, and the suspeion I am installing will perfrom better. Seems like a good idea.
Now.... which one? I’m liking the Camborg Uniball.
I was warned by a wise man that this lift was going to cost me more than I thought. He was right!
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Thanks guys.
I’ll call Wheeler’s tomorrow. Prolly don’t really “need” it. The way I’m thinking about it is this.The vehicle currently has 55k on it. I’m basially replacing the whole suspension w/ new parts. Since the UCA seems to be a weak point on a lifted truck, ball joints are wear items, and the suspeion I am installing will perfrom better. Seems like a good idea.
Now.... which one? I’m liking the Camborg Uniball.
I was warned by a wise man that this lift was going to cost me more than I thought. He was right!
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So I re-read the posts about UCA’s & all of the manufacturer specs I went w/ Total Chaos Uni-Ball UCA. Currently at 5% off at Wheeler’s.
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I'm also going with this lift. I'm just trying to decide if i want the Camburg UCAs instead of the two options Toytec gives you.
I'm now trying to decide if i want to get some friends together and install ourselves or take it to a shop. Decisions, decisions...
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Hey guys have a question hate to bug but just bought a 2.5" billet spacer and diff drop will I need a rear spacer or should I be ok measurements are 34"f /36.5 rear driver side and 34.5"f/ 37"rear passenger side so that's 2.5 " factory rake will it be ok or should I have them send a 2" ? Or am I going to have to run a rear spacer anyways , if so I lost the link that had them for the 5th gen on Amazon
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Also I called the dealer talked to them they said you only need ucas for over 3" 3"& under are fine they said they do it all the time
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What risk or accelorated wear w/ lift please?
Hey folks,
I’m going to sound like a real weenie here but I need some sound advice please.
After much thought and some research I decided to pull the trigger and ordered a lift including Bilstein 5100 all around, front set to 0 w/ 2 1/2” Toytech lift springs up front (preassembeled as a strut by Wheeler’s w/ new bushings etc, 2” OME lift springs in back, diff drop & Total Chaos Uniball UCAs.
As many folks here that lift their vehicles and as I see on the road, I had a couple people spook me. They told me that I would regret lifting as it is more trouble than it’s worth. They implied safety risks and accloerated wear that would signifcantly shorthen the life of my 2011 4Runner SR5.
Are they right? Are their any safety risks or excessive life-shortening wear as a direct result of a 2 1/2" - 2” lift?
I lost sleep over this and am struggeling w/ buyer’s remorse. Even considering taking the shipping and restock hit on shipping them back.
Can folks w/ mechanical knowledge & experience please confirm or refute these concerns?
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Originally Posted by jjdbike
Hey folks,
I’m going to sound like a real weenie here but I need some sound advice please.
After much thought and some research I decided to pull the trigger and ordered a lift including Bilstein 5100 all around, front set to 0 w/ 2 1/2” Toytech lift springs up front (preassembeled as a strut by Wheeler’s w/ new bushings etc, 2” OME lift springs in back, diff drop & Total Chaos Uniball UCAs.
As many folks here that lift their vehicles and as I see on the road, I had a couple people spook me. They told me that I would regret lifting as it is more trouble than it’s worth. They implied safety risks and accloerated wear that would signifcantly shorthen the life of my 2011 4Runner SR5.
Are they right? Are their any safety risks or excessive life-shortening wear as a direct result of a 2 1/2" - 2” lift?
I lost sleep over this and am struggeling w/ buyer’s remorse. Even considering taking the shipping and restock hit on shipping them back.
Can folks w/ mechanical knowledge & experience please confirm or refute these concerns?
Thanks!
JD
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Got to live your life man. My lift is the single best thing I've done to my vehicle. Life is too short to be a weenie.
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