10-29-2020, 10:44 PM
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Great post with lots of info. I recently purchased this ‘11 SR5 and am trying to find out exactly what the previous owner had installed. He says he asked the shop to level it when they installed the wheels and tires. Best I can tell that’s 1.25” spacer so is that considered 2.5” lift?? I need to crawl under and take a closer look at the rear but I don’t think it was touched. As it sits right now it measures level but appears to have a reverse rake at times, which I can’t stand. Assuming the rear does not have any spacer what should be added to even it out?
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11-07-2020, 12:54 PM
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#752
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what size tires are you able to fit under there? what's your wheel offset?
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Sorry for the late response here, tires are 285/65/18 E Load Ridge Grapplers
Wheels are 18x9 0 offset
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03-08-2021, 03:09 PM
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#753
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Anyone switch from Toytec Superflex to Wheeler T13 or vice versa?
I have both sitting in my garage and I can't decide which route to go.
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03-08-2021, 03:57 PM
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This is good info, thanks for putting this together.
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05-11-2021, 11:30 PM
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I had a set of 6112s assembled at a local shop and the top hat rubber gasket is not aligned with the bolts on one of them - is that a big deal?
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12-03-2021, 05:16 PM
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Rough Country Suspension lift
Getting ready to put a 3" lift, new tires and rims on my 18 TRD Forerunner.
The Shop where I am going likes Rough Country. I've heard a few people say the don't like Rough Country Brand. Can anyone tell me why I shouldn't use Rough Country? Thanks for any advice.
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04-17-2022, 09:48 AM
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I've got a 5th gen ORP without KDSS and am trying to figure out if there is a suspension setup that will give me the best possible on-road comfort / control.
I don't plan on changing the OE tire size for now but do plan on adding a bit of weight: full steel front bumper, full size aluminum roof rack with awning, and some hitch weight. I'd like some lift to improve looks and get me a little higher to avoid some of the rocks my windshield tends to encounter on the highways.
I don't live in part of the country with significantly challenging off-road trails but would like to be somewhat capable.
I'd appreciate any opinions on manufacturers and the maximum lift size you'd consider.
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05-08-2022, 12:53 PM
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Hey guys, new to the forum and rear coil springs.
I have a 2022 4Runner TRD PRO and I'm currently running the Westcott lift with 33" tires.
It looked great and leveled at install with a Greenlane bumper and winch(100-120 lbs combine weight), however I since added the RigD Ultraswing spare tire carrier, with a 33" spare, and, I'm keeping the stock spare tucked under the truck for added protection, as well as CBI DOM120 Rock sliders a Roam Adventure awning and a high lift jack.
Rotopax 3Gallon is also on order so about 300 lbs of weight mistly at the rear, without any cargo.in the rear.
My truck now sags a lot especially when loading coolers, food, water, fuel, camping gear..
Since the TRD PRO is already 1" higher in stock form, should I go with 2" or 3" Dobinson rear coil springs, and, should I go with regular coils or variable rate?
I use my rig as a daily driver/grocery getter, as well as for wheeling and camping, last trip when loaded, the rear springs sagged so much I couldn't stick my foot between the tire and rear fender to get to the roof rack..
I had Firestone airbags on my previous vehicles and they're prone to airleaks in our cold winters so that's not an option I'd consider.
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08-13-2022, 01:15 PM
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Ok then, I've got a '16 with XREAS which are coming to end of life and asking for feedback from people who've gone full replacement (not just XREAS users, any will do) about their experience.
I am not looking to lift for extra travel or clearance, I will ride "normal" sized tires, and this is largely a DD. I understand I can use OEM arms up to around 2" or so, but after that will need new UCA/LCA.
My quick thoughts based on past research, but interested in your experiences:
XREAS / nope, not worth the cost to install new or effort to install takeoffs
5100s / leaning away from this because I like the "posh" ride of the XREAS and don't want to get into stiff/body roll rides, but will consider
6112 & 5160 / looks like a good combo with decent miles... good experience for those who are riding these?
King OEM / I'd really like these but will probably have to install myself to save costs... and it's probably overkill
OME / these look fine but all require lifting and new control arms?
OME BP-51 / for this price I can get Kings...
Other suggestions?
*I know Dobinsons has some options, but these look comparable to Bilstein or OME offerings, although I am less familiar.
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09-06-2022, 03:04 PM
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New guy here, I'm the stuckee for researching upgrades to my wife's 2020 4x2 Nightshade Edition.
For anyone that cares to answer, I'm looking for a mild lift (~3) for the wife's grocery-getter. 99% on-pavement driving, she may jump an occasional curb on occasion to get around traffic, but no serious off-roading. It's purely cosmetic, and I know, this is like getting a V6 mustang, but it is what it is.
Looking for inexpensive but reliable, not necessarily the cheapest around. Are spacers safe/reliable or should I upgrade further?
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09-16-2022, 02:50 PM
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Thank you for putting this together... heck of a lot of pages to go through, but very helpful.
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11-04-2022, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toffees
Ok then, I've got a '16 with XREAS which are coming to end of life and asking for feedback from people who've gone full replacement (not just XREAS users, any will do) about their experience.
I am not looking to lift for extra travel or clearance, I will ride "normal" sized tires, and this is largely a DD. I understand I can use OEM arms up to around 2" or so, but after that will need new UCA/LCA.
My quick thoughts based on past research, but interested in your experiences:
XREAS / nope, not worth the cost to install new or effort to install takeoffs
5100s / leaning away from this because I like the "posh" ride of the XREAS and don't want to get into stiff/body roll rides, but will consider
6112 & 5160 / looks like a good combo with decent miles... good experience for those who are riding these?
King OEM / I'd really like these but will probably have to install myself to save costs... and it's probably overkill
OME / these look fine but all require lifting and new control arms?
OME BP-51 / for this price I can get Kings...
Other suggestions?
*I know Dobinsons has some options, but these look comparable to Bilstein or OME offerings, although I am less familiar.
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I'm in your boat. This thread is great to list some of the options, but where's the thread with people who have tried them and can weigh in.
I'm leaning towards OME or billy 5100 or toytec or dobinsons. Everything looks pretty comparable on paper.
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11-07-2022, 06:33 PM
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Greetings gents, I am new to the 4Runner world and this site, and as such, figured this would be a good place to drop this as I do not have enough posts to start my own thread.
I am due to take possession of my new MGM TRD Pro next week. I am coming over from an Off Road Xterra. I have been a member here for a few months and have been quietly learning so as to avoid asking easily answerable questions.
With that in mind, I have a probably easily answered question about lift pricing.
I am in CO and my dealership has an off road shop in house. They offer various packages to be rolled into the OTD price of the truck.
My question is this: is $4850 a fair price for: Westcott designs 2/1.25 spring perch lift, 285/70/17 KO2s, subsequent spare tire bracket alteration to fit a full spare (so five tires in total) and all labor? Just looking to see what you guys think before I pull the trigger. Thank you in advance.
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11-08-2022, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGMUFC
Greetings gents, I am new to the 4Runner world and this site, and as such, figured this would be a good place to drop this as I do not have enough posts to start my own thread.
I am due to take possession of my new MGM TRD Pro next week. I am coming over from an Off Road Xterra. I have been a member here for a few months and have been quietly learning so as to avoid asking easily answerable questions.
With that in mind, I have a probably easily answered question about lift pricing.
I am in CO and my dealership has an off road shop in house. They offer various packages to be rolled into the OTD price of the truck.
My question is this: is $4850 a fair price for: Westcott designs 2/1.25 spring perch lift, 285/70/17 KO2s, subsequent spare tire bracket alteration to fit a full spare (so five tires in total) and all labor? Just looking to see what you guys think before I pull the trigger. Thank you in advance.
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That seems quite a bit for labor. You're looking at about $2500+ for the install. I paid $550 for my coilover install at a shop here in NJ, so add maybe another hour for them to put the coil spacers in the rear. Does $1k for the total install sound right to everyone else?
Current Pricing:
$400 for Westcott lift
~$1750 for 5 KO2s with tax, mount, and balance based off current amazon pricing
$100 for alignment afterward
Not sure what the spare tire bracket is. I thought 285s fit underneath anyway, so something I'm sure small or insignificant.
Dealers here are notorious for jacking up pricing on dealer lifted vehicles. I've seen Jeeps here with 10k stickers added for suspension, wheels, tires and a lightbar. Pretty insane.
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11-08-2022, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGMUFC
Greetings gents, I am new to the 4Runner world and this site, and as such, figured this would be a good place to drop this as I do not have enough posts to start my own thread.
I am due to take possession of my new MGM TRD Pro next week. I am coming over from an Off Road Xterra. I have been a member here for a few months and have been quietly learning so as to avoid asking easily answerable questions.
With that in mind, I have a probably easily answered question about lift pricing.
I am in CO and my dealership has an off road shop in house. They offer various packages to be rolled into the OTD price of the truck.
My question is this: is $4850 a fair price for: Westcott designs 2/1.25 spring perch lift, 285/70/17 KO2s, subsequent spare tire bracket alteration to fit a full spare (so five tires in total) and all labor? Just looking to see what you guys think before I pull the trigger. Thank you in advance.
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said that seems high. Did they give you itemized pricing and if so how many hours of labor did they quote and at what rate?
Which stealership is this?
Plus the big question in my mind...... do you trust a dealership to do the work?
And also no mods are needed to fit a 285/70 in the stock location so I'd push back on that
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