[gshadow325]

Originally Posted by uood8

The programming for the blade al was ridiculous...push it in and turn the key on, wait for light, turn key off and done.

Over all it is a high quality product that works well. I love the ez-go access since I do not have the smart key. Compustar gives you the most flexibility with options and products ive seen, you can really cater the unit to what you need.

The last DEI products I installed were years ago and it was a wire by wire installation which is a totally different beast than a can-bus installation. The first remote start i had in the 4runner was a audiovox rs/flcan bypass. the bypass and alarm/remote

Also you must learn tachless mode before it will remote start.

I think you mean it's super easy to program right.

Flcan and ads alca can both be used as stand alone and a rf kit can be added to it in some applications. Video with Lexus is such a application.

Learning tach is super easy. No tach less mode. Turn key on and hit remote start button.

Originally Posted by gm350reratliff

I also thought the install was pretty easy but I use to install alarms up to about six years ago. It really makes it nice that everything you need is in one unit. I didn't think the blade-al programming was too bad. Actually went pretty easy for me. Compustar's diagrams, some terminology and wiring guides are laid out different than DEI as well. I combed over it a few times before I started to familiarize myself with it. Because the blade-al works with can-bus so well, there are less wires to hook up.

It does seem like a higher quality system compared to DEI. A lot of flexibility and options to choose from.

I use to install DEI at my former job. DEI systems worked good for us for many years but quality seemed to slip in 2008-09. Our shop started having issues with not only the alarm/RS brains but also some bypass modules. It was a huge pain for us as an independent shop. During that time DEI didn't treat us the best either. It was one of the reasons I quit installing alarms altogether back then.

My favorite feature is the Drone Mobile app. I use it quite a bit. Makes the 2-way fobs unnecessary.

Thanks for the feed back. Blade is super easy to program and very flexible unit.

Originally Posted by Doc_Fry

After using Puffin as recommended by another member works great! But cost about a dollar for six months of Flash. I am opposed to flash as it is security riddled, but that is another story. On to the meat and potatoes so to speak.

I like how this one is setup. Used to be an installer years ago so installation is not a problem though I have a few questions as it has been years and I am not familiar with these products or some of newer Immobilizer setups.

1. I assume the Idatalink module overrides the Immobilizer? If so how is this programed? Can it be done by an end user or does it need special hardware to program it?

2. I could not see as this was just a remote start system how is it interfacing with the factory alarm? Through the Idatalink module?

3. If one where to go this route what are the exact modules and parts needed? IE datalink model, compustar model, ez go, drone mobile,
Etc.

4. Does the drone mobile need to have a subscription for basic functions from the phone. I assume you would need to be able to receive a cell signal for it to function? Could be an issue in my area.

5. What would I gain by moving up to Alarm over the factory? Would it mostly be accessory ability such as glass break and other sensors. Capability to roll down windows, open rear hatch? If I where wanting to be able to roll down the rear hatch window for the times my dog is in there in her kennel or be able to open the rear hatch to let her out what Compustar parts would I need to do so and still have the remote start as well as what parts would I need to have to make this happen.

6. Any install tips,on these newer 4runner? Like I said it has been over 10 Years since I touched a vehicle. Alot has changed since then.

7. Does someone have a copy of the current wiring diagrams for the vehicle? Could look over at 12volt but thought I would ask. No longer have any subscriptions to look it up otherwise.


Thanks

1. No, I would flash it for you unless you buy a Web link updating tool and then sign up for a account that they voice verify and Google map your physical location.only after you get referral by your sales rep. Easy lol.

2. It's not just a remote starter. It's a data interface module that is not bypassing the immobilizer. It's interfacing with it. It literally talks to the vehicle via can bus. Sends all the commands that way.

3. Yes you nailed it. And add in some documentation, some notes from me. First time maybe 3 hours. 2 are reading and familiarization. 1 actually installing and assembly at most.

4. Great assumptions. Yes, but not voice like you are used to. Data service. It's small packets that can be sent 2g/3g/4G or lte. Off topic, but. ..look at the vending machines. On top there is a little black box. That's a machine to machine communication device. That's how the soda machine talks to home office to tell it's status. Same concept. That's why compustar choose the largest most reliable network, Verizon.

Subcription goes like this, first 3 months free then 50 per year or 120 for 3 for basic service and then there is premium services for additional charge. I'm not sure of pricing on that. Download Drone app to see current pricing

5. Another great question. You start with a remote starter. With all the other brands you stuck, if you wanted alarm later. Compustar, change some settings add siren, led, shock sensor. You done basically.

Rolling down window, I have not looked into doing that mod on a 5th Gen. Personally don't know how to do it since I was never into it that far.although I did do it on my 4th green where others have failed while using a aftermarket system.
6. Tips, yes you get them once my package arrives on your doorstep. Lol, it's real easy. It's like riding a bike, you never sorta forget how.

7. Honestly it's simple.

Ignition harness area

Horn wire
Ignition
Starter one
Starter two
Accessory
12 constant
Ignition 2

3 wires at obd2 connector
Can high
Can low
Data

Side of bcm.you will be staring at it all day long when you do the install.

2 wires
Parking lights and another data line.

That's it. No brake, no hood, no tach, no door locks, no disarm wire, no door triggers nothing else.

Hey compustar doesn't own me. If they did, I would not be on a public forum recommending someone I don't know to install them. That's just nuts. If compustar was like apple, they would be telling me I can't do this and that. ..go find a work around, well that's dei.

Dei told their customers they are no longer able to do 3x lock to start like in my video with the white TRD pro with their bypass modules. That's dei dictating what's going to happen. Compustar asks what would you like to see happen.

That's where the I mafia comes from.

This post took me half hour to respond to and edit so it doesn't sound crazy. My first post was 3 minutes and it was 15 words or less. So thanks for taking me up on my offer for questions, you are not allowed anymore for 2 weeks. Lol joke.

[NoDak]

this is the current drone mobile pricing (also to add, you will need one or the other service to use the drone mobile features. you can use the single fob that comes with the unit, but that kinda defeats the purpose of getting drone mobile) :

		Basic	Prem
Lock/Unlock		x	x
Remote Start		x	x
Trunk Release		x	x
Auxiliaries		2	2
Panic/Siren		x	x
Vehicle Status			x
Vehicle Temperature			x
Battery Voltage			x
Desktop Control		x	x
History Log		x	x
GPS Locator			x
Points of Interest			10
Speed Notifications			x
Curfew Alerts			x
Geofencing			x
Alarm Alerts		x	x
Shock Sensor		x	x
Push Notifications		x	x
Remote Start		x	x
Success/Fail
Text/E-mail Alerts		x	x
Push Notifications		x	x
Engine ON/OFF			x
Maintenance Reminders			x
1-Year		49.99	119.99
3-Year		119.99	299.99

[1engineer]

@gshadow325 nice write up(s)!

[uood8]

Yes I mean the blade al is the easiest to program.

[gshadow325]

Originally Posted by 1engineer

@gshadow325 nice write up(s)!

thank you

Originally Posted by uood8

Yes I mean the blade al is the easiest to program.

i know what you meant! someone reading this thread can take it the wrong way and think its hard !!!

[bimrunner]

Oh how I wish you lived close by so you could install a great alarm for me @gshadow325 !!! I really want to get a reliable alarm system and so thankful for this write up. Now, hard part is finding a good installer for this!

[Riddler6.7]

Originally Posted by bimrunner

Oh how I wish you lived close by so you could install a great alarm for me @gshadow325 !!! I really want to get a reliable alarm system and so thankful for this write up. Now, hard part is finding a good installer for this!

Very true. I dont trust very many people to do electrical work. Lots of places always use the scotch lock wire taps, which I despise. I would rather crimp, solder, and seal the connection. I have done A LOT of wiring throughout the years, but never installed a security or remote start.

Gshadow325, Is there enough room where the connections will be made to use good butt connectors and at the very least use heat shrink? Or do you solder/seal all the connections?

[gshadow325]

Originally Posted by bimrunner

Oh how I wish you lived close by so you could install a great alarm for me @gshadow325 !!! I really want to get a reliable alarm system and so thankful for this write up. Now, hard part is finding a good installer for this!

honestly, this freaking system is so awesome its real easy to do. well at least in my mind it is LOL, i only do in the peak remote start season 30-50 units a week :P

Originally Posted by Riddler6.7

Very true. I dont trust very many people to do electrical work. Lots of places always use the scotch lock wire taps, which I despise. I would rather crimp, solder, and seal the connection. I have done A LOT of wiring throughout the years, but never installed a security or remote start.

Gshadow325, Is there enough room where the connections will be made to use good butt connectors and at the very least use heat shrink? Or do you solder/seal all the connections?

boooo, crimps and butts boooo....thats like smothering your 21 day dry aged bone in rib eye with A1 steak sauce, AND you want it COOK WELL DONE burnt. this is at Peter Luger's in williamsburg, queens NY...booo

I might have a handfulmof these scotch locks in the shop that are from install packaging. I have never bought a box of butt connectors or scotch locks in my 12 years at my shop.

really, good ole strip, twist, solder and KEY is wrap with good 3m supper 33 tape!

if you installed before, dont get scared with this brand, its user friendly once you sit down and read what is going on!

Believe me, if this was any other brand. we would not be having this conversation!

[Riddler6.7]

I like that way of thinking. Although I have to say that i have never had a single issue with the crimp, solder, seal butt connectors from waytek.... they have solder inside the butt connectors and is made from a heat shrink material. So u crimp then heat and it solders and seals all at the same time.

Those are the only butt connectors I would ever use, but the old fashioned way is always great too

[itsdchz]

I have spoken to Steve on the phone about all the above concerns. I am planning to do the install myself, and although I have a ton of experience, I am still leery. Steve assures me that that it will not be a problem, and that he has notes along with install instructions that will make it easy. I will order soon, and attempt.. Crossing fingers.

[gshadow325]

Originally Posted by itsdchz

I have spoken to Steve on the phone about all the above concerns. I am planning to do the install myself, and although I have a ton of experience, I am still leery. Steve assures me that that it will not be a problem, and that he has notes along with install instructions that will make it easy. I will order soon, and attempt.. Crossing fingers.

i got a 2012 sr5 4runner in today and took pictures just for you and everyone else.

its so simple now with my pictures

i document where each and every wire is.
what wire to attach to it.

its now up to you to execute the job

[gshadow325]

Pictures to tease you lol, sorry doc. ...I'm not uploading to a apple device lol

[uood8]

Originally Posted by itsdchz

I have spoken to Steve on the phone about all the above concerns. I am planning to do the install myself, and although I have a ton of experience, I am still leery. Steve assures me that that it will not be a problem, and that he has notes along with install instructions that will make it easy. I will order soon, and attempt.. Crossing fingers.

we'll get your through it!

[Doc_Fry]

Originally Posted by gshadow325

Pictures to tease you lol, sorry doc. ...I'm not uploading to a apple device lol

No worries, I still love my ipad mini and still think that Flash is a huge security threat. i am interested in the equipment if you have the time and want to write up a quote for me on what I asked for and break down my costs i will probaly jump on it. My truck comes in the 14th to the port and will be at my fathers in Florida and would rather install there then out in the snow in the mountains. Shipping would be 30513.

Steve

[Keith_PDX]

Sent you a PM. I'd like to pick one of these up from you. Thanks for your contributions to the forum!