[RedStripeRanger]

Looking at different options for winch mounts not including a new full front bumper.

I know a lot of people have the SSS slimline hybrid series bumper but was wondering if anyone has seen or used Undercover Hidden Winch Systems before? (Undercover HWMS). The team doing the next (current now) Expedition Overland has them for their 4R. Thoughts?

[jicko]

They are good stuff.

TRD Baja chase team have them too.

Group buy?

[mikey's2010SR5]

I think BudBuilt still makes a hidden winch mount too. Similar to the undercover one.

[RedStripeRanger]

Originally Posted by jicko

They are good stuff.

TRD Baja chase team have them too.

Group buy?

I'd be down

[brian0128]

Pelfreybuilt has a hidden mount as well. I saw it on their build page here.

[ur2ez22]

Originally Posted by jicko

They are good stuff.

TRD Baja chase team have them too.

Group buy?

I'd be interested in seeing what kind of price savings you can get on a group buy - less cutting than the SSS although in all reality the MSRP comparisons aren't drastically different (at least once you've factored in the cost of a winch as well...only a few hundred dollars out of $1,500-$2,000 total cost).

[jicko]

In the works. Coming up today. As we wrap up the Shrockworks GB.

IMO a hidden winch mount is just "hidden". The SSS is a pronounced piece, especially with the hoop. Some people like that for the "look effect".

I liked my gen5+ (2014+) frontend look A LOT, anything else kinda ruins it for me.

[cjacob316]

I like this a little more than the SSS

[ur2ez22]

Originally Posted by cjacob316

I like this a little more than the SSS

Is that the Undercover product with optional recovery points?

[cjacob316]

Originally Posted by ur2ez22

Is that the Undercover product with optional recovery points?

Yes it is. 40 lbs if anyone is wondering, and replaces the aluminum bumper, so not a huge weight increase.

[MAD 4Runner]

Originally Posted by cjacob316

I like this a little more than the SSS

Who is doing this one? I like the look of that a lot

[jicko]

Jicko at your service again, bringing you the next quality group buy!

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/sale-t...ng-2015-a.html

[96r50]

Originally Posted by cjacob316

...replaces the aluminum bumper, so not a huge weight increase.

This is what I don't like about this design. You lose a good 8-10" of front end protection on both outside ends of the frame rails without the aluminum bumper in place.

[ur2ez22]

Originally Posted by 96r50

This is what I don't like about this design. You lose a good 8-10" of front end protection on both outside ends of the frame rails.

Does anyone know how solutions like this compare to some of the recently-designed full front bumper replacements as well as the SSS solution when it comes to crash protection? I've seen the upcoming Demello, Shrockworks has theirs and I think CBI and 4x4 Labs are coming out (or have come out) with something as well. But form a safety perspective for those of us who still daily drive as well as hit the trails, how do all these options compare?

[jicko]

Originally Posted by ur2ez22

Does anyone know how solutions like this compare to some of the recently-designed full front bumper replacements as well as the SSS solution when it comes to crash protection? I've seen the upcoming Demello, Shrockworks has theirs and I think CBI and 4x4 Labs are coming out (or have come out) with something as well. But form a safety perspective for those of us who still daily drive as well as hit the trails, how do all these options compare?

I doubt ANY of these goes thru crash testings.