04-13-2018, 08:05 PM
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It’s all about liability ladies & gents……..Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards require vehicle manufactures to document capacities to the end user (us) at time of first sale. Exceeding any of these capacities will 1) Potentially cause vehicle failure putting consumer at risk of injury and/or death, 2) Void manufactures warranty.
I have a little experience with what’s going on here, in my industry, modifying vehicles for people with disabilities. We are required to document all changes made to any vehicle. NHTSA has approve a Make Inoperative form for our industry which are exemptions that allow certain changes to be made to a vehicle that may or may not affect crash testing certification by manufactures. Some examples are removal of airbags, removal of safety equipment, installation of hand controls, and drive by wire (electronic) driving equipment to allow somebody with a disability to drive a vehicle.
Looking at your driver’s door you will notice VIN tag, it documents Vehicle Identification Number, GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) is the maximum amount of weight vehicle is designed to carry……….actual weight of vehicle (full of fluids), all occupants, and cargo. GAWR, Gross Axle Weight Rating front and rear, is maximum allowable weight for front and rear axles. Additional information is also documented e.i. rim and tire size, but not going to elaborate on those at this point. All of these capacities have been designed and engineered to allow for safe operation.
Attachment 191490
Next, Tire Placard on driver side “B” pillar. Manufactures were required by law to add label in 2006, label documents seating capacity, load carrying capacity, tire/rim size, and tire inflation.
Attachment 191491
So how is load carrying capacity calculated? Manufacture simply scales vehicle (weigh) to achieve actual weight (curb weight). Subtract GVWR from Curb weight = Load Carrying Capacity, this is the maximum amount of weight of occupants and cargo that can be added without over rating vehicle. Looking at Tire Placard (highlighted by red arrow) you will notice capacity is noted.
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Fantastic info
@ Berry
hiram !
Would changing from the stock passenger rated tires to say “D” rated KO2’s change the GAWR and thus increase the safe cargo capacity?
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04-13-2018, 08:27 PM
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I guess mine is from the trd wheels.
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04-13-2018, 08:30 PM
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2016 SR5 4x4. Mine says 5lbs. I'm guessing it's my slide out cargo shelf?
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04-14-2018, 04:48 PM
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Fantastic info
@ Berry
hiram !
Would changing from the stock passenger rated tires to say “D” rated KO2’s change the GAWR and thus increase the safe cargo capacity?
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Wouldn't change factory gross axle weight ratings. But does increasing tire capacity hurt, absolutely not.
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04-14-2018, 05:49 PM
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Mine is a bone stock TRD Offroad and has this sticker. I just recently noticed it.
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04-14-2018, 06:39 PM
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[ Speaking to myself ]
WARNING Sitting your fat ass in the truck will reduce GVWR by 200 lbs !
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08-27-2018, 05:24 PM
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134000 miles and I just noticed this sticker for the first time. '10 TE, no KDSS or other options, so I am assuming it is for the slide-out cargo tray.
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08-27-2018, 06:33 PM
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My trdp is 95lb increase.
Worded poorly. My capacity was also reduced by 95lbs.
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08-27-2018, 07:41 PM
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Mine says reduced by 20lbs.
I have running boards, AW floo rmats, & roof rack cross bars as options so I think that's why.
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08-27-2018, 09:10 PM
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Mine says 6lbs on an SR5 with 3rd row, runner boards, TRD skid plate, TRD wheels, TRD suspension. It wasn't on there when I processed the paperwork. I didn't take delivery till after all my options were put on. But I have added some schtuff to her so that is way off!
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08-27-2018, 09:16 PM
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08-28-2018, 10:06 AM
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What a fun thread, love all the witty comments!
Like others I had never seen the sticker before. For my 2017 TRD Pro it a 23 lb reduction, factory options that I paid for were all weather floor liners/cargo tray, cargo cover and hood protector, factory options at no cost were 50 state emissions, TRD PRO package, and preferred owner's portfolio (whatever the heck that is).
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