Another very cool story

But in short, freeloader ? I could have gotten the diagram from any shop. Literally any good auto mechanic can pull it up for me which that’s where I got my prints. But f the prints. I actually tested each wire. And no the ground wire doesn’t provide stray current discharge .


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Could be wrong but I think they got rid of it for the 2014+ models. Mine was a blank spot so I installed my camera switch there.

That’s all I can think anytime I see posts about disabling or removing it. Why would you spend an extra $1,800 when it’s much easier to find a 4Runner without KDSS than with it.

However, reading posts by adults who don’t know basic grammar and the difference between there, their, and they’re is much worse.

Are you priding yourself on wasting a large amount of time by ignoring wiring diagrams and trying to reinvent the wheel? Do you work for the government?

Um I used the wiring diagram. That’s what I referred to. I was referring to jet boy saying I free loaded. Not even sure what he meant by that. I think he was implying I took the schematic from this thread and free loaded lol. I actually got the diagram from my Toyota tech buddy. As well as a local mechanic shop near me.

I’m saying I actually testing( each wire , referring to wire diagram) with meter etc versus just talking about it. No I don’t work for the government. They work for me .


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Because a kdss 4runner that can be controlled is a better 4runner then non kdss 4runner. It’s more versatile. Guarantee you Toyota didn’t give the option to control that so they wouldn’t be liable for accidents. Same reason why jeep doesn’t allow the sway bar to discounnect after a certain speed.

Another reason why one would spend 1800 extra is because it’s America and we can do whatever the f we want with our own money.

This is a forum. Not to many ppl care about basic grammar unless you were on the boob too long. .


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The point is not to completely disable KDSS from the system, but rather give the driver the ability to choose when it is on or off if needed. There are times when you're going over the KDSS-setpoint while cruising offroad and you don't want the harsh ride that it produces. Being able to flip a switch and turn it off temporarily until you hit pavement, etc, seems like a totally reasonable thing to want to do in my opinion.

I really don't understand everyone's issues with this. Who cares if you bought a kdss equipped vehicle and want the ability to turn it off whenever. I agree it is better to have it when you want it, and have the ability to turn it off whenever, then to not have it at all.

As for Dom being a freeloader, I would say that's a little harsh. Are the prints out there to the rest of us? Sure. Are they exactly the same as he used to build his harness? Maybe, maybe not. Either way, does it really matter? No one is forcing anyone to buy the harness. It's anyone's choice to do so.

Personally, I would prefer to buy from someone who's tested and put in the work. Electrical, how simple or not is not my forte, and i'm pretty mechanically inclined. At the end of the day, its no different than someone who puts anything on their vehicle, some may not like it, but to each their own. He's not forcing anyone to buy anything, but simply giving the option if that's the route you want to go.

If you don't like it, don't comment. Forums are great as some mentioned to share idea's and your not wrong. I guess it depends on how you look at it, because technically Dom is sharing his idea...

It’s just haters is all. Also this is not my idea at all. I just been doing sway bar disconnects since jeep offered sway bar disconnect via button. We’ve been doing in that world since day one. So same time when I found out about kdss.


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The issue isn't the selling of a pre-packaged solution. It's great for folks who can't or don't want to put it together themselves.

It's the, "I'm not going to tell you what wires to interrupt" response that's the issue. Taking the position of refusal to share what he learned is a problem. And it's a particularly odd response given that it's literally in a thread created by someone else who already told him and everyone else how to do it. And there's a dozen people who are happy to read the wiring diagram for him or anyone else if they don't know how. And even design a paint by numbers type wiring guide. There's dozens of them on this forum for all sorts of functions. The freeloader problem is making use of the collective forum knowledge but refusing to contribute back. Going to the length of trying to hide a simple circuit by using all black wires in the harness and making a connection in the loom is both a stupid idea and a demonstration of the freeloader mentality.

You still have no idea how I did it. The whole hiding the wire thing is for the consumer or some1 wanting to buy it to reverse engineer it. Regardless of what I do, they will be able to figure it out anyway. I’m just making it a little harder to do that. But if you read closely on my responses to you, you would know by now which wire.

Also yes making a connection in the loom is way stupid. That’s exactly what I didn’t do.

Stop guessing / assuming and just go do it already. Do your version of it or mine or whatever. Just do something other then I know it all smart ass engineer brain tactics . This thread has been here to f’n long with no answer or real results as far as the actual switch. Only disconnecting it. I don’t find the answer here or in the forum. I found out which wire from my testing.





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Jetboy: Please stop fueling an argument.

The product will not be for sale via this forum and for people like me that understand the flexibility this will provide it is invaluable.

I firmly believe the statement “it’s a secret” was in jest, it doesn’t matter one bit. For the grammar warriors of the forum now you can pick me apart, is it proper to use “jest” in this context?

this is getting fun.

"buys 4runner"

""spends inordinate amount of money on mods""

haven't you said how easy it is and how many others have done the same? so is he even hiding anything at that point? sure maybe he used a different process, who cares. Don't get so hung up on one member's desire to create a new product for the market. if there is a demand it will work out, if not, he will have wasted time and money and everyone can "say see i told you so".