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The only other thing is make sure if you're using a spacer that it's on the correct side. Then if this doesn't settle out, you'll need to source a thicker spacer for the low side.
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It's definitely on the correct side, so I'll fill the tank up and figure out if a 20mm or 25mm spacer would do best. Thanks for your help!
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11-06-2020, 05:43 PM
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Thanks for posting this! I just bought the 300 and 599 springs but had no idea how they would look. I wanted a small lift, but with 5100s and 275/70/17 tires instead.
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Originally Posted by moorei2
Finally posting having installed last month. Love how it drives compared to my previous setup (6112/5160). Should have gone this route out the gate.
- Dobinsons IMS Front Struts & Rear Shocks
- Dobinsons C59-300/C59-599 Springs
- SPC UCA
Didn't take any pre/post measurements unfortunately.
1st pic: 6112/5160 (1in preload in front and stock rear springs) and 265 Falken AT3Ws
2nd pic: Dobinsons setup listed above, SPC UCAs, and 265 Falken AT3Ws
3rd pic: Dobinsons setup listed above, SPC UCAs and 285 BFG KO2s
Thanks Mike for talking me through the options and providing good instructions on how to do this myself. The KDSS steps you provided actually helped get rid of lean that I had my previous 6112/5160 setup.
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11-09-2020, 02:46 PM
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Mike is this in stock. Front Springs: C59-302 - 2.5" lift with stock front end load, 2" w/150LBS added
Front Shocks: IMS59-50700 Internal Monotube IFP Shock suits 0-2.5" lift
Rear Springs: C59-325 - Stock rear end, 2" lift
Rear Shocks: IMS59-50705 Internal Monotube IFP Shock suits suits 0-3" lift
Optional Install Parts: Nothing else, thanks
Front Optional Assembly: Nothing else, thanks
Rear Optional Parts: Nothing else, thanks
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11-09-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 21'SilverScreamer
Mike is this in stock. Front Springs: C59-302 - 2.5" lift with stock front end load, 2" w/150LBS added
Front Shocks: IMS59-50700 Internal Monotube IFP Shock suits 0-2.5" lift
Rear Springs: C59-325 - Stock rear end, 2" lift
Rear Shocks: IMS59-50705 Internal Monotube IFP Shock suits suits 0-3" lift
Optional Install Parts: Nothing else, thanks
Front Optional Assembly: Nothing else, thanks
Rear Optional Parts: Nothing else, thanks
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Those front coils are due at the end of the month in red or black only
No ETA on those rear coils
Front IMS due by the end of the month
Rear IMS will also be able to ship when the front coils arrive
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11-10-2020, 07:39 PM
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I am trying to plan out some upgrades and getting confused when it comes to the suspension. I am looking to eventually get a hybrid bumper with a winch, but not sure when (~120-130 lbs). Not sure if I can justify a rear bumper so that may be stock for the most part. Even knowing what I want, I am confused on what coils and struts to look into. If I upgraded the suspension before the bumper/winch, would that negatively affect the ride? I am also not looking to lift a whole lot either since I have new tires and they are stock size atm, maybe an inch? Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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11-10-2020, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ykket
I am trying to plan out some upgrades and getting confused when it comes to the suspension. I am looking to eventually get a hybrid bumper with a winch, but not sure when (~120-130 lbs). Not sure if I can justify a rear bumper so that may be stock for the most part. Even knowing what I want, I am confused on what coils and struts to look into. If I upgraded the suspension before the bumper/winch, would that negatively affect the ride? I am also not looking to lift a whole lot either since I have new tires and they are stock size atm, maybe an inch? Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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The shocks side is relatively easy if you're looking at dobinsons. You have the 700 or 574 fronts. 574 has more travel.
Springs wise, there are a few options and it all depends on what static ride height you are looking to get. Now lets say you get a C59-300 which gives you about 1.8inches of lift with a stock front set up. If you eventually add a bumper, the static ride height will most likely drop down. How much? depends on the spring rate and the calculations.
If you want to lift your car a certain height and you have a bumper, you need to get a spring that has a spring rate that allows you to lift all that added weight. IF you start with that sort of spring and have no bumper, the higher spring rate can cause a rougher ride. That being said, you can always swap springs out so you can start with a lower spring rate for no bumer and add a higher spring rate spring for when you add a bumper.
Use this site to determine which springs youd like
Dobinsons 1" to 3.5" Build-A-Kit Toyota 4Runner 2010-21 | Exit Offroad
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11-11-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyKevin
The shocks side is relatively easy if you're looking at dobinsons. You have the 700 or 574 fronts. 574 has more travel.
Springs wise, there are a few options and it all depends on what static ride height you are looking to get. Now lets say you get a C59-300 which gives you about 1.8inches of lift with a stock front set up. If you eventually add a bumper, the static ride height will most likely drop down. How much? depends on the spring rate and the calculations.
If you want to lift your car a certain height and you have a bumper, you need to get a spring that has a spring rate that allows you to lift all that added weight. IF you start with that sort of spring and have no bumper, the higher spring rate can cause a rougher ride. That being said, you can always swap springs out so you can start with a lower spring rate for no bumer and add a higher spring rate spring for when you add a bumper.
Use this site to determine which springs youd like
Dobinsons 1" to 3.5" Build-A-Kit Toyota 4Runner 2010-21 | Exit Offroad
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Great thank you for replying. I had no idea about the build a kit site, (maybe its new?). Taking a look at that I think I figured out what may work for me, keeping the future upgrades in mind.
If I am understanding things correctly, this is what I was thinking:
Front Coils: C59-302
Front Struts: GS59-700
Rear Coils: C59-505
Rear Shocks: GS59-705
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11-11-2020, 09:22 AM
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Great thank you for replying. I had no idea about the build a kit site, (maybe its new?). Taking a look at that I think I figured out what may work for me, keeping the future upgrades in mind.
If I am understanding things correctly, this is what I was thinking:
Front Coils: C59-302
Front Struts: GS59-700
Rear Coils: C59-505
Rear Shocks: GS59-705
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That's a good combo - relatively the same to what this white 4Runner has (he the same coils but has MRA shocks). The black 4Runner has similar proposed shocks (IMS, standard length + comfort rear) and front coils but with 325 eq. coils in the rear(discontinued kdss lean version).
The front lift on both these trucks measures out a hair over 22" center hub to fender. The rear on the black truck is about 0.65" higher than the white truck. Hope this helps!
Tire size, black 4Runner = 255/80R17 (33.1"x10")
Tire size, white 4Runner = 265/70R17 (stock)
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11-11-2020, 09:45 AM
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That's a good combo - relatively the same to what this white 4Runner has (he the same coils but has MRA shocks). The black 4Runner has similar proposed shocks (IMS, standard length + comfort rear) and front coils but with 325 eq. coils in the rear(discontinued kdss lean version).
The front lift on both these trucks measures out a hair over 22" center hub to fender. The rear on the black truck is about 0.65" higher than the white truck. Hope this helps!
Tire size, black 4Runner = 255/80R17 (33.1"x10")
Tire size, white 4Runner = 265/70R17 (stock)
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Thanks for the picture, that definitely helps, as well as some confirmation that my choices may work. I currently have stock size as well so it is nice to see too. These upgrades are a slippery slope haha.
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11-11-2020, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Ykket
Great thank you for replying. I had no idea about the build a kit site, (maybe its new?). Taking a look at that I think I figured out what may work for me, keeping the future upgrades in mind.
If I am understanding things correctly, this is what I was thinking:
Front Coils: C59-302
Front Struts: GS59-700
Rear Coils: C59-505
Rear Shocks: GS59-705
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That's the most common combination of parts. 2.5" up front and 1.5" in the rear. Gives you room to add bumper and winch weight up front and still keep some good lift height, and also removed a good bit of rake to help level out the vehicle.
I also have a gallery of photos here with part numbers listed: Gallery - Toyota 5th Gen 4Runner (2010-2020) | Exit Offroad
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11-12-2020, 05:34 PM
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Mike,
Decided to reinstall ICON 2.5 ext. travel (extra 7/8") from a previous vehicle on current 19 4runner. vs long travel option I PMd you about.
I will use ICON 650Lb spring that came on the coilovers with app. 220lbs constant on the front. RTT and sliders more centered...280lb and the rest more over rear axle with drawers and extras, about 300lbs. I looked at your information on coils and thinking the 327 or 329 if they would work with the ext. travel set-up or if better the 675or 677V.
Weight may vary up or down as I use vehicle and would like not to have rear to rough with weight reduced.
Thanks for any information
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11-12-2020, 05:52 PM
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Mike,
Decided to reinstall ICON 2.5 ext. travel (extra 7/8") from a previous vehicle on current 19 4runner. vs long travel option I PMd you about.
I will use ICON 650Lb spring that came on the coilovers with app. 220lbs constant on the front. RTT and sliders more centered...280lb and the rest more over rear axle with drawers and extras, about 300lbs. I looked at your information on coils and thinking the 327 or 329 if they would work with the ext. travel set-up or if better the 675or 677V.
Weight may vary up or down as I use vehicle and would like not to have rear to rough with weight reduced.
Thanks for any information
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So which rear shocks will you be using? I'm not following, as I think the 2.5's are only up front but they use a 2.0 in the rear maybe? Doesn't really matter, I'd just need to know the fully extended length of them to let you know if the 327's or 329's would work with them or not.
The Dobinsons LT rear shocks would have the 327/329 coils fall out at full extension, but they're also super long.
I think the 327's would work fine for you based on the weight you're carrying for 2" of lift, or the 677V's for 3" of lift.
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11-12-2020, 07:12 PM
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So which rear shocks will you be using? I'm not following, as I think the 2.5's are only up front but they use a 2.0 in the rear maybe? Doesn't really matter, I'd just need to know the fully extended length of them to let you know if the 327's or 329's would work with them or not.
The Dobinsons LT rear shocks would have the 327/329 coils fall out at full extension, but they're also super long.
I think the 327's would work fine for you based on the weight you're carrying for 2" of lift, or the 677V's for 3" of lift.
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The rear is 2.5 with adjustable res. as well.
The piston length from the bottom of the shock to center of lower mount hole is 10 and 5/8". The full shock measured from the lower mount center to top of shock not including rubber bushings is 24" so about 25 1/2 to center of rear top mount. As measured off the vehicle so would assume they are at full extension. The 2" springs that came with them measure right at 16 3/4 ".
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11-13-2020, 11:00 AM
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The rear is 2.5 with adjustable res. as well.
The piston length from the bottom of the shock to center of lower mount hole is 10 and 5/8". The full shock measured from the lower mount center to top of shock not including rubber bushings is 24" so about 25 1/2 to center of rear top mount. As measured off the vehicle so would assume they are at full extension. The 2" springs that came with them measure right at 16 3/4 ".
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OK, cool. Those won't be a problem to run with any of the coil options. They're only a fraction longer than the 701 shocks from Dobinsons. The LT's are 28.75" fully extended.
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11-13-2020, 01:04 PM
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OK, cool. Those won't be a problem to run with any of the coil options. They're only a fraction longer than the 701 shocks from Dobinsons. The LT's are 28.75" fully extended.
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Great. Thanks Mike. Just gotta decide how high I want the rear. Thinking long travel 675V or 677V since they are variable when lighter weight is in the rear. Shouldn't be as harsh a ride when lighter correct?
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