06-05-2020, 11:22 AM
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FYI, long travel front and rear MRA 3-way adjustable struts are due in next week.
MRA59-A574 and MRA59-A575
Those long travel rears have taken a looooong time to come in, but they're finally due!!
Dobinsons 3-way adjustable MRR (MRA) Long Travel Front Struts for 2010+ 4Runner FJ Cruiser GX460
Dobinsons 3-way adjustable MRR (MRA) Long Travel Rear Shocks for 2003-20 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, GX470
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06-05-2020, 12:31 PM
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Hey Mike, any ETA on the IMS long travel rears?
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06-05-2020, 12:35 PM
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Hey Mike, any ETA on the IMS long travel rears?
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They're out of production and just about to ship. 8 weeks or so and they should be here
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06-05-2020, 05:34 PM
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What is the difference between IMS59-50701 vs IMS59-50705?
I want to upgrade my tires to 285/70/17 and would like to minimize the chance of rubbing and that's why I would like a 3.5" front lift, but I understand that I may still need to do some mods to eliminate any rubbing no matter what I go with. Everything is stock on my 2020 Venture KDSS except sliders that will be here in a month or so.
This is the setup I'm thinking of getting but have few questions
Front
IMS59-50574
C59-302 or C59-314 for a 3.5" lift after settling?? Stock bumper. Will get hybrid type bumper in the future.
Rear
IMS59-50701 vs IMS59-50705?
C59-325 or 327? Currently have about 100lb. Might go another 100.
Other
Dobinson UCA
DD59-527KK
BS59-560 Is this needed for 3.5" lift?
PS59-4025
Thanks
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06-05-2020, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LA260
What is the difference between IMS59-50701 vs IMS59-50705?
I want to upgrade my tires to 285/70/17 and would like to minimize the chance of rubbing and that's why I would like a 3.5" front lift, but I understand that I may still need to do some mods to eliminate any rubbing no matter what I go with. Everything is stock on my 2020 Venture except sliders that will be here in a month or so.
This is the setup I'm thinking of getting but have few questions
Front
IMS59-50574
C59-302 or C59-314 for a 3.5" lift after settling?? Stock bumper. Will get hybrid type bumper in the future.
Rear
IMS59-50701 vs IMS59-50705?
C59-325 or 327? Currently have about 100lb. Might go another 100.
Other
Dobinson UCA
DD59-527KK
BS59-560 Is this needed for 3.5" lift?
PS59-4025
Thanks
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You still would need to trim (depending on wheel offset) when going with a bigger tire if you plan to do some gnarly offroading (see here). Also 3.5 is pretty tall, might have CV angle issues there.
Regarding the difference between the 701s and 705s, See Mike's post here
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06-05-2020, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedyKevin
You still would need to trim (depending on wheel offset) when going with a bigger tire if you plan to do some gnarly offroading (see here). Also 3.5 is pretty tall, might have CV angle issues there.
Regarding the difference between the 701s and 705s, See Mike's post here
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Thanks. Did you have to do lot of work to make the 285/70/17s fit with your setup?
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06-05-2020, 06:20 PM
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Thanks. Did you have to do lot of work to make the 285/70/17s fit with your setup?
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I'm running the stock Off-road wheels (I believe +15 offset) with a trimmed front fender. I only rubbed the mud flaps when I was super compressed and had the steering wheel turned all the way. It wasn't a bad rub as it was just plastic but it eventually got annoying on the downhill rutted parts so I removed the flaps and no more rubbing! But still very close when fully compressed
Testing rub/contact below:
Trimmed front (I believe you will need to trim just a little on the front and not as much as I did):
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06-05-2020, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyKevin
I'm running the stock Off-road wheels (I believe +15 offset) with a trimmed front fender. I only rubbed the mud flaps when I was super compressed and had the steering wheel turned all the way. It wasn't a bad rub as it was just plastic but it eventually got annoying on the downhill rutted parts so I removed the flaps and no more rubbing! But still very close when fully compressed
Testing rub/contact below:
Trimmed front (I believe you will need to trim just a little on the front and not as much as I did):
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That looks good! I'm going to keep the stock TRD wheels.
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06-06-2020, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LA260
What is the difference between IMS59-50701 vs IMS59-50705?
I want to upgrade my tires to 285/70/17 and would like to minimize the chance of rubbing and that's why I would like a 3.5" front lift, but I understand that I may still need to do some mods to eliminate any rubbing no matter what I go with. Everything is stock on my 2020 Venture KDSS except sliders that will be here in a month or so.
This is the setup I'm thinking of getting but have few questions
Front
IMS59-50574
C59-302 or C59-314 for a 3.5" lift after settling?? Stock bumper. Will get hybrid type bumper in the future.
Rear
IMS59-50701 vs IMS59-50705?
C59-325 or 327? Currently have about 100lb. Might go another 100.
Other
Dobinson UCA
DD59-527KK
BS59-560 Is this needed for 3.5" lift?
PS59-4025
Thanks
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The 705's are comfort valved for an empty rear end. The 701's are "normal valved". For 100lbs or more, with possible plans to add more, I'd suggest the 701's for the rear.
The listed lift heights I give are once settled, and with the adjustable height IMS, you can set them to whatever height you want essentially. The 314's would be more ideal for the possible added bumper later. 302's on IMS59-50574 set to 226mm seat height will give ~3.5" with stock weight. 314's will be 4", too much for stock weight, so they'd have to be set down a little, then cranked up later if/when you add bumper weight to the front.
Rear coils, depends if you think you'll keep bolting on more weight. The 327's may be a little too much, but if you think you'll hit the 200lb range of rear weight, or more, those would be good.
BS59-560 is a good idea with the long travel struts so that you don't risk hitting full compression stroke in the long travel struts so easily.
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06-08-2020, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Crikeymike
The 705's are comfort valved for an empty rear end. The 701's are "normal valved". For 100lbs or more, with possible plans to add more, I'd suggest the 701's for the rear.
The listed lift heights I give are once settled, and with the adjustable height IMS, you can set them to whatever height you want essentially. The 314's would be more ideal for the possible added bumper later. 302's on IMS59-50574 set to 226mm seat height will give ~3.5" with stock weight. 314's will be 4", too much for stock weight, so they'd have to be set down a little, then cranked up later if/when you add bumper weight to the front.
Rear coils, depends if you think you'll keep bolting on more weight. The 327's may be a little too much, but if you think you'll hit the 200lb range of rear weight, or more, those would be good.
BS59-560 is a good idea with the long travel struts so that you don't risk hitting full compression stroke in the long travel struts so easily.
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Thanks! I'll probably go with 302s in the front and 325s in the back. i'll change the springs later if needed.
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06-08-2020, 01:25 PM
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Install ready!
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06-08-2020, 01:44 PM
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Let us know how it goes. I don't think anyone else has yet combined the Eibach struts/shocks with the Dobinsons coils.
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Let us know how it goes. I don't think anyone else has yet combined the Eibach struts/shocks with the Dobinsons coils.
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Definitely will!
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I was thinking about the same thing. Eibach shocks front and rear, and dobinsons front and rear springs. I have KDSS so should prevent any lean without having to use spacers with their offset KDSS springs. The Eibach kit was going to go with the 2.75 in front and 1 in the rear, but want a little rake and in case I load the back up to tow something wont have sag. mixing the two seems to be a good combo. Heard nothing but good things about the eibach kit for how it rides on the road, which is 95% of the time and my daily driver, but heard about getting the lean. Also using the eibach kit you dont need UCAs. Trying to avoid that for now if I can b/c of cost and still want to get the alignment into spec for drivability
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06-09-2020, 04:22 PM
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I was thinking about the same thing. Eibach shocks front and rear, and dobinsons front and rear springs. I have KDSS so should prevent any lean without having to use spacers with their offset KDSS springs. The Eibach kit was going to go with the 2.75 in front and 1 in the rear, but want a little rake and in case I load the back up to tow something wont have sag. mixing the two seems to be a good combo. Heard nothing but good things about the eibach kit for how it rides on the road, which is 95% of the time and my daily driver, but heard about getting the lean. Also using the eibach kit you dont need UCAs. Trying to avoid that for now if I can b/c of cost and still want to get the alignment into spec for drivability
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What about the Eibach kit prevents the need for UCAs? That is if you lift above 2in.
Also, seeing that you'd like to get UCAs eventually, I strongly recommend just waiting and saving up for them so you can install it all at once and not pay for more work and two alignments!
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