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Old 06-05-2017, 02:37 PM #16
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I need to trim it. Not much clearence when tires flex.
First ARB that I really like. Can you post more pictures?
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if i didn't have another bumper on the way. i might actually bite and get the arb!
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the light design on the earlier model one looks really dated, the lights on this one look okay
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Would this fit a 13?

I don't really care if I have to cut plastic away.
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This is one of the only after market bumpers I would seriously consider putting on my 4runner. I just don't like most of them visually and this one fits the body lines nicely.
Hopefully will have mine on in the next week or two...I agree...I liked the first one, and like this even more.
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First ARB that I really like. Can you post more pictures?

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how much does this badboy weigh?
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Your truck looks damn good with the ARB, really conforms with the rest of the truck. Have you noticed a loss in power because of the bull bar?
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how much does this badboy weigh?
Around 190 lbs. 250 lbs with my winch.
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Your truck looks damn good with the ARB, really conforms with the rest of the truck. Have you noticed a loss in power because of the bull bar?
Thanks. A little but nothing crazy. It is one of the heavier bumpers out there but it is very well buit.
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Is there access above for the winch?

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Easy answer: Bumper covers are $200. You can't make filler plates for $200. Want to go back to OEM - buy a new bumper cover.
Respectfully disagree. I understand what you mean, but as you know it'd cost well more than just $200 to get back to OEM between parts, paint, and labor cost and / or personal time spent. My point was more that it's a waste and doesn't look right... to me.

I realize that it's unlikely to return to OEM afterwards. I just think If they can make a whole bumper for ~$1500, they can certainly bring their design to below the headlights for $200. It's just that it's easier to bring the steel or aluminum straight across and cut the bumper cover rather than design something more form fitting. Just my opinion.
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Functionally, it makes sense to cut the bumper. Aesthetically, it looks like poop. However, it is starting to grow on me.

I do like how this new rendition of the ARB bumper looks, I'm just not sold on the approach angle of the bumper and the weight.
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Yes. On the grill part there's a door that opens and closes that gives you access to winch clutch. Ill get a pic later tonight
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Respectfully disagree. I understand what you mean, but as you know it'd cost well more than just $200 to get back to OEM between parts, paint, and labor cost and / or personal time spent. My point was more that it's a waste and doesn't look right... to me.

I realize that it's unlikely to return to OEM afterwards. I just think If they can make a whole bumper for ~$1500, they can certainly bring their design to below the headlights for $200. It's just that it's easier to bring the steel or aluminum straight across and cut the bumper cover rather than design something more form fitting. Just my opinion.
There's really no great solution. The front clip isn't well designed to fit an aftermarket bumper. The body lines simply don't work with any of them. So you have to choose something that compromises in some way.

I personally think the biggest mistake is to try to make the bumper so high for approach angle. First it looks funny because it doesn't match the body lines. Second it exposes all the the suspension components to rocks and such. Third and most importantly it doesn't actually do anything for function. The front approach is basically never a problem. Front tires turn. So a measured approach angle directly from the front is not a representation of actual use. The departure angle is where the 4runner gets hung up. Not the front. The steeply upswept sides on most are what detracts from visual appeal. ARB did a better job of balancing the visual appeal to me. Of course it's all subjective. What I like someone else probably hates. Just my opinion.

I think manufacturing the form fitting bumper in steel is a lot harder than you think. Try it once.

I would buy a $200 replacement bumper skin, paint to match, cut and keep my OEM bumper in a safe place. The paint doesn't have to match all that well because it'll be obscured by the rest of the bumper anyway. Plus it'll fight tight where you can see and have the flex gap where it's not as obvious. But you're right - it's probably at least a $3-400 cost. Most people never go back so they probably don't care about cutting it up.

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