02-20-2019, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rageandlove
Thanks - that is great.
I'm still trying to figure out if there's a way to not disturb the carpet. I wonder if anyone has tried to use the 4 stock tie-down points with the D ring removed.
It looks easy enough to expose the mount for those just by removing a bit of trim and a screw:
I guess the question is if those are sufficient to hold wood + whatever is on the wood in place on a bumpy road.
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I think those are two of the attachment points for the Goose Gear system. The other two are the hidden threads for the factory sliding tray. I think the limiter is the thickness of the metal pan floor, not necessarily the threads.
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02-20-2019, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rageandlove
Thanks - that is great.
I'm still trying to figure out if there's a way to not disturb the carpet. I wonder if anyone has tried to use the 4 stock tie-down points with the D ring removed.
It looks easy enough to expose the mount for those just by removing a bit of trim and a screw:
I guess the question is if those are sufficient to hold wood + whatever is on the wood in place on a bumpy road.
PS Thanks to
@ alpinecowboy
... I borrowed those images from one of his mod posts.
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Mine have been there for 3 years without issue.
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02-20-2019, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MTN4RNR
Mine have been there for 3 years without issue.
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Thanks for the note. I think I'm going to puzzle out how to use those.
Love your build thread and other writing here and elsewhere, BTW.
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02-21-2019, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
so much easier to just pack a decent tent and a air mattress. are you scared of bigfoot? i throw all our sh1t on the roof rack, ice chests stay in the back with the dog and the rest of the inside is empty for our 2-3 hour drive to the mountains. take 30 min to set up camp/fill my belly with all the non craft, non hipster bullsh1t beer or some dope whiskey. meanwhile wife cooks up some bomb dinner on the coleman grill. sleep like a baby, wake up to a bomb breakfast while i make the fire again and drink more Coors. It' not oVeRLaNdINg, it's camping, and it's awesome; but I think I digress.
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I live and do most of my camping in the desert. A tent would get ripped up on the terrain out here. Yes you could get a matt but that's yet another thing to pack.
I come from a military background. I'm quite used to and experienced with vehicle camping and I tend to think it's less work then setting up a tent. I already have to set up my awning/tarp I'm not looking to clear an area, set a mat, and set up a tent. Not to mention most of the time my remote camping sites are not big enough for tents and a vehicle.
I take road trips and sleep in the truck to save on hotels. I can go to concerts, house parties, etc. without worrying about driving after drinking.
Tent's are great in the right situations. For me vehicle camping is far more versatile setup. Next best would be a RTT (but I don't like having weight up top).
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02-21-2019, 01:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rageandlove
Thanks - that is great.
I'm still trying to figure out if there's a way to not disturb the carpet. I wonder if anyone has tried to use the 4 stock tie-down points with the D ring removed.
It looks easy enough to expose the mount for those just by removing a bit of trim and a screw:
I guess the question is if those are sufficient to hold wood + whatever is on the wood in place on a bumpy road.
PS Thanks to
@ alpinecowboy
... I borrowed those images from one of his mod posts.
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I read over your posts in this thread and I'm still not sure what you are wanting to install? A simple pallet system to make the entire cargo area flat? If so, you don't need to bolt it to anything; just cut it to be a perfect fit and it will sit firmly in the back without moving. Carpet doesn't need to come out. If you want like a drawer system then I don't have any experience with that do I can't comment
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02-21-2019, 02:02 PM
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For trips with my wife or kid it's going to be the RTT but for quickie solo weekends I'm sleeping in the back. Lots of nearby mountain bike getaways from Austin that just allow me to grab my pad, pillow, container of sleeping gear and container of cooking gear and I'm ready to go. Oh, and some food, beer, and maybe my portable fire pit.
I searched far and wide for a 4runner with both KDSS and the cargo tray and am so glad I did. Love it.
The grande Paco Pad is such a perfect fit, in all dimensions, beside my fridge and is so comfortable. I'm blessed with being 5'9 which is perfect for sleeping and not having to pull out the seat bottom if I don't feel like it or need the room. Again, it's all about quick setup-and-go for me.
I enjoy the safety and shelter of the inside of the truck in the winter but it can be brutal in Texas summers.
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02-21-2019, 02:07 PM
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the frustrating thing about the goose gear is that even after spending that much money you still have to do something to fill in the gap between the front seats and platform yourself
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02-21-2019, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jhguth
the frustrating thing about the goose gear is that even after spending that much money you still have to do something to fill in the gap between the front seats and platform yourself
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The Goose Gear floor plate is designed with removal of the 2nd row in mind. There are plenty of work arounds for the cargo hump all over the forum all which don't involve a 500 piece off plywood with a name on it. I currently use layered ISO Mats cut and sandwiched together in a way to match the contour of the hump. It levels out the cargo area with the seatback and provides a nice pad for your torso. Take it a step further remove the seat bottom and throw an action packer in the footwell with the front seat forward. I'm 6'5 with plenty of room.
Get creative. Not every solution is going to be off the self.
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02-21-2019, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutant138
I live and do most of my camping in the desert. A tent would get ripped up on the terrain out here. Yes you could get a matt but that's yet another thing to pack.
I come from a military background. I'm quite used to and experienced with vehicle camping and I tend to think it's less work then setting up a tent. I already have to set up my awning/tarp I'm not looking to clear an area, set a mat, and set up a tent. Not to mention most of the time my remote camping sites are not big enough for tents and a vehicle.
I take road trips and sleep in the truck to save on hotels. I can go to concerts, house parties, etc. without worrying about driving after drinking.
Tent's are great in the right situations. For me vehicle camping is far more versatile setup. Next best would be a RTT (but I don't like having weight up top).
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we started renting a hardshell RTT for the trailer i built, its amazing.
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02-21-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by honda250xtitan
we started renting a hardshell RTT for the trailer i built, its amazing.
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That's honestly the best setup overall. I'm thinking about going that route one day.
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02-21-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutant138
The Goose Gear floor plate is designed with removal of the 2nd row in mind. There are plenty of work arounds for the cargo hump all over the forum all which don't involve a 500 piece off plywood with a name on it. I currently use layered ISO Mats cut and sandwiched together in a way to match the contour of the hump. It levels out the cargo area with the seatback and provides a nice pad for your torso. Take it a step further remove the seat bottom and throw an action packer in the footwell with the front seat forward. I'm 6'5 with plenty of room.
Get creative. Not every solution is going to be off the self.
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oh i have no problem building a platform myself, i just think it's crazy that they charge that much and it's still short
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02-21-2019, 03:34 PM
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That's honestly the best setup overall. I'm thinking about going that route one day.
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02-21-2019, 03:47 PM
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oh i have no problem building a platform myself, i just think it's crazy that they charge that much and it's still short
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Well it wasn't designed to eliminate the cargo hump as I stated. Which is why it's short. As a stand alone piece it's to help you mount things like slides, fridges, and drawers. It's not any taller then the stock floor because it's meant to be built on so why would they waste 2 inches of headroom?
It's expensive because of the materials and development (Rivnuts, quality wood, and R&D). Is it still a premium? Sure. But your paying for a high level of quality and bolt on ease. Your also paying for the ability to expand the system to the 2nd row fairly seamlessly (it's a really nice fit).
Do I think it's over priced? I lean to agreeing that it's overpriced. I have serious doubts as to how much r&d it really took for a company like goose gear (who has been in the game for 60 years) to develop this product line. Could materials really make up the difference? What do I know tho? Not much. Just my opinion.
If your looking to just level your cargo floor to the seat hump there are zero off the shelf options I've looked high and low since I bought the truck last spring.
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02-21-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mutant138
Well it wasn't designed to eliminate the cargo hump as I stated. Which is why it's short. As a stand alone piece it's to help you mount things like slides, fridges, and drawers. It's not any taller then the stock floor because it's meant to be built on so why would they waste 2 inches of headroom?
It's expensive because of the materials and development (Rivnuts, quality wood, and R&D). Is it still a premium? Sure. But your paying for a high level of quality and bolt on ease. Your also paying for the ability to expand the system to the 2nd row fairly seamlessly (it's a really nice fit).
Do I think it's over priced? I lean to agreeing that it's overpriced. I have serious doubts as to how much r&d it really took for a company like goose gear (who has been in the game for 60 years) to develop this product line. Could materials really make up the difference? What do I know tho? Not much. Just my opinion.
If your looking to just level your cargo floor to the seat hump there are zero off the shelf options I've looked high and low since I bought the truck last spring.
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cargo hump, huh? it's a flat floor all the way to the front seats. even the raised goose gear sleeping platform is too short, they make you fill in the last bit on your own.
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02-21-2019, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jhguth
cargo hump, huh? it's a flat floor all the way to the front seats. even the raised goose gear sleeping platform is too short, they make you fill in the last bit on your own.
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...I can't tell if you're serious or not. Either way I'm done with this conversation.
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