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Grounding on Rago CB Mounts

Hello Friends,

How did you ground your Rago CB mount ?

Since it's installed sandwiching the plastic bumper...

I'm guessing I also need to strip the paint by the mount/antenna mating surface


Thanks for your input

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Hello Friends,

How did you ground your Rago CB mount ?

Since it's installed sandwiching the plastic bumper...

I'm guessing I also need to strip the paint by the mount/antenna mating surface


Thanks for your input

been meaning to post this. curious too. I got everything installed radio and all, didnt get to ground it so its not working yet.. Thinking maybe a longer ground and run it inside to ground? I google it and just see them mounted and not even wired.
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been meaning to post this. curious too. I got everything installed radio and all, didnt get to ground it so its not working yet.. Thinking maybe a longer ground and run it inside to ground? I google it and just see them mounted and not even wired.
even on my diamond mount i ran its own ground and out it onto the plate. Since its a sandwhich plate and grounds from the entire plate. Run a wire and ground it from the back side to the chassis.
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been meaning to post this. curious too. I got everything installed radio and all, didnt get to ground it so its not working yet.. Thinking maybe a longer ground and run it inside to ground? I google it and just see them mounted and not even wired.
I know ! All the pics are missing the wiring !
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even on my diamond mount i ran its own ground and out it onto the plate. Since its a sandwhich plate and grounds from the entire plate. Run a wire and ground it from the back side to the chassis.
Starting to think that - wire a ground from the rear drivers side light to the inner part of the mount.

Now the question is - are those screws a good grounding method ?
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Starting to think that - wire a ground from the rear drivers side light to the inner part of the mount.

Now the question is - are those screws a good grounding method ?
should be. test it with a multimeter after. Usually threads are not coated and should ground easily
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RF grounds =/= electrical grounds, make sure you use a grounding strap and not just a wire

If this is for CB i would probably just get an NGP antenna though, you won't really be grounding to anything that makes sense as a ground plane in that location.
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Where is your mount located? Mine is on the passenger side of the hood. I ran a ground wire down to a bolt that was grounded. Some bolts attached to the body are not grounded, so check with a meter. Don't forget to tune your radio.
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RF grounds =/= electrical grounds, make sure you use a grounding strap and not just a wire

If this is for CB i would probably just get an NGP antenna though, you won't really be grounding to anything that makes sense as a ground plane in that location.
I don't really know the difference to be honest, what should I look for ?

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Where is your mount located? Mine is on the passenger side of the hood. I ran a ground wire down to a bolt that was grounded. Some bolts attached to the body are not grounded, so check with a meter. Don't forget to tune your radio.
Yeah friend of mine has a SWR meter for that purpose
I will be using the Rago Antenna mount with a Firestik, just like in this pic:

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maybe ill just run a strap with the antenna wire?

Ill be doing a new rear bumper so this mount will only be temporary but i would like to get this working already lol
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maybe ill just run a strap with the antenna wire?

Ill be doing a new rear bumper so this mount will only be temporary but i would like to get this working already lol
Gosh that red antenna looks dope !

To be honest I'm not sure what's the preferred grounding method,

Antenna to mount to truck ?
Antenna to truck ?
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OK OK - this is really a bonding issue and not a grounding issue since the vehicle is not really grounded at all.
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Gosh that red antenna looks dope !

To be honest I'm not sure what's the preferred grounding method,

Antenna to mount to truck ?
Antenna to truck ?
thanks and beats me. Thats what im here for

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OK OK - this is really a bonding issue and not a grounding issue since the vehicle is not really grounded at all.

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I don't really know the difference to be honest, what should I look for ?



Yeah friend of mine has a SWR meter for that purpose
I will be using the Rago Antenna mount with a Firestik, just like in this pic:

RF is on the skin of the wire, so RF grounding straps are usually flat braided cables so they have a lot of surface area. The orientation of the ground plane matters, so if you are using the rear quarter panel as a ground plane it's not the ideal orientation for antenna performance.

This is a poor description, but you can kind of think of the ground plane as what reflects the radio waves so the rear quarter panel is a weird orientation for reflecting radio waves from the antenna. You could also get a No Ground Plane (NGP) antenna which is specifically tuned to not need a ground plane.

If you just need enough range for trail coms I doubt it will make enough difference to matter, but if you are mounting to a plastic panel I would probably just get an NGP antenna and not worry about it. Firestik makes NGP antennas.

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OK OK - this is really a bonding issue and not a grounding issue since the vehicle is not really grounded at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_plane

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