View Poll Results: Air Bags on Taller Rear Springs?
Run the same air bags on taller springs. 4 36.36%
Run the same air bags on taller springs.
4 36.36%
Run taller air bags on taller springs. 2 18.18%
Run taller air bags on taller springs.
2 18.18%
Why are you worried about this? It'll be fine. 1 9.09%
Why are you worried about this? It'll be fine.
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Why didn't you just get beefier springs? 2 18.18%
Why didn't you just get beefier springs?
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I'm just here for the popcorn. 3 27.27%
I'm just here for the popcorn.
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wouldnt you have to cut them because you need the center hole for when the spring compresses you dont slam your end bumpstop into the top of the air bag where they connect?
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wouldnt you have to cut them because you need the center hole for when the spring compresses you dont slam your end bumpstop into the top of the air bag where they connect?
They come with a plate to go between the two.
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They come with a plate to go between the two.
huuuuh whaaaa?

I cut my stops before installing my lift. Now like everyone else said theres probably 2 more inches in there than what I need...

BUT if you dont cut them theres no hole for the air line to exit... yes?
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huuuuh whaaaa?

I cut my stops before installing my lift. Now like everyone else said theres probably 2 more inches in there than what I need...

BUT if you dont cut them theres no hole for the air line to exit... yes?
Sorry... I misunderstood. I think you are correct, but I can't remember if the bump stop had a hole all the way through or not. I don't think it did.
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So, the questions:
Who all is running rear airbags AND a taller rear spring?
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With a 2" taller rear spring, do I need to get taller airbags?

A little background:
My 2015 4Runner Trail Edition Premium is my daily driver. It is also our primary off road and cross country vehicle. So, 90% of the time it carries me 60 mile round trip through highways or back roads to work. The other 10% of the time it is loaded to the brim with people, puppies, and stuff. So, we use AirLift Air Bags Part #60809 to help with the load.

However, next week I will be upgrading to Dobinson's USA Rear Springs (C59-325R) and Rear Shock (GS59-705) thanks to Mike - @Dobinsons Mike at Dobinson's USA via Kyle - @Kfog375 at Treaty Oak Offroad. This should give me a 1.75-2" lift depending on load, but if I want to use my air bags to assist... wouldn't I need to get taller air bags???

EDITED: @samwhich reminded me to mention: I did contact AirLift, and I am awaiting a response.
Did you ever get any replies back from anyone? Tearing my suspension out next month would like to know what to do with my air bags.

They leak right now so if i have to replace them nows the time
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Did you ever get any replies back from anyone? Tearing my suspension out next month would like to know what to do with my air bags.

They leak right now so if i have to replace them nows the time
lot of responses from several people, but most importantly the airbag manufacturers say they need measurements. My personal experience: my rear coils are too tall for my current airbags to work as I need them to. So, I am going to work with whomever helps me first to get the right size for my application next month when I start to tweak my current setup.
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lot of responses from several people, but most importantly the airbag manufacturers say they need measurements. My personal experience: my rear coils are too tall for my current airbags to work as I need them to. So, I am going to work with whomever helps me first to get the right size for my application next month when I start to tweak my current setup.
should let me know what you end up gettin for bags
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should let me know what you end up gettin for bags
Will do! it is in the budget for next month. I just need to get the time to get everything done.
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I cannot comment on the taller air bags, but I left one segment of the factory bump stop in place when I put in my 1.5" Daystar spacer and Firestone air bags... their regular 4Runner kit. 2 years later, no complaints, seems to work like it should! I posted a review on e-trailer, too. By observation, I think the Firestone kit is more designed to contact top & bottom coil seats, whereas the Air Lift bags more just balloon out to fill the voids in the coils. Not exactly what you are after, but hope it helps?

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For the back, since I was installing a coil spacer that installs over the top of the stock bump stop, I left one segment of the factory bump stop in place, more or less the same height as the spacer. I cut it with a hand saw, then smoothed it out with a flap disc on my angle grinder… DON’T DO THAT!!! The high heat developed slung a tar-like mess of sticky fragments all over my work area… the back yard, in this case, which our dog proceeded to step in and track all around the house over the next several days. Doh!! WD-40 worked well to clean up the tacky remnants/surface, but didn’t find anything to help in the backyard rocks short of hand picking out the yuck as best I could and covering with a new layer of rock.





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I cannot comment on the taller air bags, but I left one segment of the factory bump stop in place when I put in my 1.5" Daystar spacer and Firestone air bags... their regular 4Runner kit. 2 years later, no complaints, seems to work like it should! I posted a review on e-trailer, too. By observation, I think the Firestone kit is more designed to contact top & bottom coil seats, whereas the Air Lift bags more just balloon out to fill the voids in the coils. Not exactly what you are after, but hope it helps?

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Definitely helps!

After talking with Firestone, this looks to be the route I'm going to go. I'm going to get their kit and new factory stops. I'll be replacing my AirLifts next month. This is actually what they recommended to do.
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Definitely helps!

After talking with Firestone, this looks to be the route I'm going to go. I'm going to get their kit and new factory stops. I'll be replacing my AirLifts next month. This is actually what they recommended to do.

Well???????
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Well???????
Well... I have been running without airbags since I went to the 329 rear springs. I still have the cut bump stops as well.

SO... the plan as of right now is to look into the Airlift 1000 Universal Series of Airbags. Firestone does not have an airbag that matches my current height, but it looks like Airlift does...

i am going to do some measuring and testing over the next two weeks to see if I really want to go this route, OR if I just need to replace the bump stops and fix my loaded weight distribution. Since the initial conversation, we have added a larger fridge (LP66D SnoMaster), an Highland Expedition Outfitters T3.5 Custom Camp Trailer, AND a water system with 15 gallons of water. So, I have a ton of things to account for.
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Any update? I’m about to change from the 1.5 spacer to a 1.5 coil and need airbags also.

Where in Texas are you? I saw you did a lot of the local off-road parks and national forest
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Any update? I’m about to change from the 1.5 spacer to a 1.5 coil and need airbags also.

Where in Texas are you? I saw you did a lot of the local off-road parks and national forest
I am located just outside of San Antonio. Most of our off-roading is out of state or in far West Texas. We do get up to Hidden Falls outside of Marble Falls a couple times a year.

As for the airbags - no update yet, but after this past weekend in West Texas with a fully loaded rig, we are definitely going to need some airbags or a diet.
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Installed the F4108 kit and it's perfect so far. Bags are ~3" taller and seem to be the same diameter (I think they expand a bit over time). Here's a picture next to OME 895 coils.
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