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Old 06-05-2020, 01:15 PM #1891
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Just an update with the stage 2. The shop had a hell of a time with these, pulled them and adjusted them 6 times now and they still are not right. Got home and passenger was 1/2" higher.
I called Eibach and talked to tech support and they told me something completely different than they told my shop. Told shop to adjust and test where it sits. Problem is you need to pull the strut each time.
I called Eibach and they tracked down the R&D guy who knows about these and this is what I was told.---- need to release the preload, said I should be able to compress the spring on the rig while it's jacked up. Then said 12 turns =1" of lift or 3 turns for 1/4". Perfect, I run to harbor freight and get the spring compressor for 30bucks....it don't fit on the coils. Maybe they sell coil compressor that will fit while installed???
What did I find out? Jacked the rig up to attempt the adjustment and since could do nothing put the tire on and done. I measured before and again afterwards. Just jacking it up and lowering it, not driving the rig raised the whole damn front 3/4". I can only recommend set the damn things, forget the alignment and put a few hundred miles and hope they settle. No wonder shop had a hard time, they move every time he lifted it up....without adjustment. Next is the 12 threads per inch theroy. My shop left them at 7 threads from the bottom. One side got 1.5" the other 2".....so much for the 12 threads per inch. Will report back in a few hundred miles. Anyone else, please report back findings, I really want to know if mine are ****ed up or if they simply need to settle.
Edit- I've read so much that for true measurements check at 1/2 tank of gas. After giving up the the day, had 1/4 tank. went to the gas station and measured before and after being a full tank. The measurements were identical, adding gas did nothing. Also the eibach rear springs got 1.5" lift, not the advertised 1"...maybe they will settle 1/2" ?
Well man, thanks for being one of the first consumer guinea pigs I guess. A few thoughts/questions. I guess my big theme is "How/why would a leader in the suspension world send out a product that wasn't ready for prime time?" I have no stake in this other than being a potential future customer through various vehicle builds.

1. Do you think the spanner wrench was indeed weak and a culprit in the installation issues? Any chance your shop/installers were part of the issue? I'm sure during development and testing, Eibach wasn't pulling the whole coilover every time they adjusted it. Like with Toytec's spanner, it isn't super duty but you can put a pipe on it for more torque, no issue.

2. Any time the vehicle is raised off the ground, the vehicle has to be at a minimum rolled forward and backward some to let the suspension and wheels/tires do their thing. I'd put some miles on before going in for an alignment for sure to let everything settle.

3. Can you post some pics of the printed instructions and of the spanner wrench? I'm genuinely curious where the gap was here.

It'll iron out. Most of the stuff we worry about is small potatoes. Frustrating when we spend hard-earned money on stuff I know though. Re: your rear coils, I think I've read several in this thread say they settled to right at 1" pretty quickly. Maybe stick a little weight in the back to ease your mind until then.
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1. Do you think the spanner wrench was indeed weak and a culprit in the installation issues? Any chance your shop/installers were part of the issue? I'm sure during development and testing, Eibach wasn't pulling the whole coilover every time they adjusted it. Like with Toytec's spanner, it isn't super duty but you can put a pipe on it for more torque, no issue.
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3. Can you post some pics of the printed instructions and of the spanner wrench? I'm genuinely curious where the gap was here.
At this time there are no directions - Gap was the sales pitch leading up to this point
See above, basically- I don't know what the answer is. I guess I should have waited. I was a test dummy for the Morimoto headlights last year, should have learned my lesson. Not the shops fault zero directions and tech support gives multiple answers.
I'm venting because I paid 3 days on a rental car for what should have been a 2-3 hour job. Paid extra on shop labor and at the end of the day I'm still not done.
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Anyone out there that went Eibach over Icon Stage 2? If so, what made you go the Eibach route?

People say, "Buy Once, Cry Once" and invest in the Icon Stage 2 suspension. But for my daily driving and light/moderate use Off-Road, are Icon's overkill for me?

Decisions....decisions...
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Guys, I have about 300 miles on my pro leveling kit and just noticed this. Seems like the spring is not seated properly or I am over thinking it. Yours looks like this?
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Guys, I have about 300 miles on my pro leveling kit and just noticed this. Seems like the spring is not seated properly or I am over thinking it. Yours looks like this?
Nope, might need to re-seat that.

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20K mile check in.

I am still on the Eibach Stage 1 Pro Truck Kit. Still comfortable, and still dollar for dollar all smiles. I did add air bags to the rear for when tow duty calls.

I changed my setup from TRD Pro wheels on KO2 265/70/17 with 1.25" Spider Trax Spacers to Titan7 AK1’s with Falken AT3W 285/70/17 spacer free and it still rides like a dream.

No rubbing issues at full lock compressed or uncompressed. (Wheel specs 17x8.5 -8, front liner pushed forward with bumper trimmed, front mud flaps removed, and rear flaps are about to go bye bye)

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Why did you decide to go with Dobinson coils and Eibach shocks? Why not Dobinson shocks as well or a different brand?
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Why did you decide to go with Dobinson coils and Eibach shocks? Why not Dobinson shocks as well or a different brand?

I wanted the Eibach shocks because they had really good reviews on this forum and were monotubes but I also wanted more lift in the rear and Dobinsons had a lot of options to go with. Oh and I also wanted a lower spring rate. It also helped that I was able to buy a cheap non used set from a member on the FJ forum. The whole kit together cost me $745 shipped. I will post a review of the combo today or tomorrow.


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what springs did you go with? I am debating doing the same thing. I have KDSS and wanted to do the Dobinsons spring b/c they make KDSS specific ones with different heights to help prevent the KDSS lean, hopefully without needing spacers. Also wanting more of a rake in the back and going with their 1.25-1.5 inch springs. That way if I tow or something it wont sag below the front height
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Shocks: 4 Eibach Pro Truck, fronts are installed on the bottom ring.
Front Coils: Dobinsons C59-302 (advertised at 2.5" lift)
Rear Coils: Dobnsons C59-325 (advertised at ~2.0" lift)

Stock Hub measurements (I have 3rd row seats):
PF & DF: 19.5
PR & DR: 21.5

New Hub measurements after 50 miles, rears should settle with some time:

DF: 22.0
PF: 22.5
DR: 24.0
PR: 24.0

Compared to my OEM XREAS suspension with Toytec 2.5/1.5 spacer lift, this lift feels slightly better in terms of ride quality, but not pleased overall as its still a bumpy ride on road. Off road is much better though.

I went with this lift set up because I wanted the lower spring rates that Dobinsons offers as well as being able to dial in the perfect lift numbers for my needs and the Eibach shocks have great reviews and the mono tube design is what I was after. My end goal was really to get the smoothest on road ride I could get and I did not achieve this, lol. I do have a slight driver side lean that I will address with a top plate spacer after a couple of months if it remains. Also my XREAS lines are zip tied currently and I plan on removing the system soon.

Let me know if any of you have any questions!
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Been searching on this thread but couldn't find confirmation. Anyone running the Eibach 2.75" coils and 1" coils on Bilstein 5100 shocks ? How does it ride, and any pictures ? I have 5100s currently at .85 setting up front with stock springs, and stock rear. Looking to get Eibach lift springs all around for more lift. I don't mind the way it feels now, stiffer than stock, just wondering how the ride will change swapping the stock springs to the Eibach lift springs. I'll be resetting the Bilstein back to the 0 setting for the Eibachs. Thanks !
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Just ordered my Stage 1 from WheelersOffroad. Can't wait for it!
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Just ordered my Stage 1 from WheelersOffroad. Can't wait for it!
You'll be waiting for it. I ordered the Eibach lift from them too... waited and waited for confirmation. I eventually called and was told they were out of stock. I canceled my order. Hope you have better luck with that company.
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