12-06-2019, 09:10 AM
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I don't think I need them for off-road but would anyone recommend UCA's if I was to do some mild to moderate off-road? Mild/Moderate meaning trails that would require recommend 33"+ wheels, rock sliders, and a 2"+ lift to hit trails? I know UCA's are mainly for alignment but not sure if trails would also be a factor. (Just got a T4R and just getting familiar with the forum)
Would you even recommend this kit for those types of trails? (Per the website, "Developed to provide balanced ride quality, control and off-road capability")
:Patiently waiting for the adjustable rears...not easy with the lower price on the current kit but I'm going to stick it out!:
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I did some crazy off roading in the Ozark National Forest in October. Rocks - mud holes, water crossings, loose rocky up and down hills, plus off camber climbs.
This lift (as is - no spacers or UCA) worked just fine. I was glad I installed my Shrockworks rock sliders the week before the trip.
I wished I had better skid plates and maybe a little taller tire.
Here's a video of the exact trail we were on. We came from the other direction.
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12-06-2019, 01:15 PM
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What kind of alignment numbers are people getting with just the lift.
No UCA or spacers etc.
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12-06-2019, 01:33 PM
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What kind of alignment numbers are people getting with just the lift.
No UCA or spacers etc.
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It depends on how high you will go. Let’s say if you do 2.5” and up, your toe and camber will be in specs, caster will be at 1.2-2 . This is low #, your 4R won’t be driving the same on Freeway and overall.
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12-06-2019, 03:19 PM
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In case you didn't notice, last day of the sale is TODAY. I just ordered. Out of stock, but I don't care- no hurry. Seems like a great deal.
The self install looms...insert fingernail biting emoji.
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12-06-2019, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ax2021
It depends on how high you will go. Let’s say if you do 2.5” and up, your toe and camber will be in specs, caster will be at 1.2-2 . This is low #, your 4R won’t be driving the same on Freeway and overall.
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Just wondering what the max caster is able to be obtained. I don't like wondering all over the road on the highway. I already bought the eibach kit, have not put it on. But I would rather do the UCA now when I have it apart but not crazy about how much they cost. Got the Eibach kit at black friday price and dang jba control arms are almost as much as the kit.
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12-06-2019, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mybuddytmil
Just wondering what the max caster is able to be obtained. I don't like wondering all over the road on the highway. I already bought the eibach kit, have not put it on. But I would rather do the UCA now when I have it apart but not crazy about how much they cost. Got the Eibach kit at black friday price and dang jba control arms are almost as much as the kit.
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If you want your caster closer to 4* with the 2.5" the lift kit offers, then yes, you'll probably need UCA's. If you're ok with the caster being closer to 2*, then the stock UCA's will be fine.
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12-06-2019, 06:38 PM
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Was such a great experience getting the install done at the factory! Thanks Ryan and Kevin for your hospitality!
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12-06-2019, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mybuddytmil
Just wondering what the max caster is able to be obtained. I don't like wondering all over the road on the highway. I already bought the eibach kit, have not put it on. But I would rather do the UCA now when I have it apart but not crazy about how much they cost. Got the Eibach kit at black friday price and dang jba control arms are almost as much as the kit.
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is right. Get caster to specs,which is closer to 4* aftermarket uca will make it happen and the best way to do it when you install full suspension at the same time. I know they’re not cheap, but I would look at JBA . Price, quality and costumer service are great. Just installed those 2 months ago and really happy with them. I mean you’ve got Eibach PRO kit, can’t go wrong with them just do it right first time and you’re will see the difference.
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12-06-2019, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Par5in2
In case you didn't notice, last day of the sale is TODAY. I just ordered. Out of stock, but I don't care- no hurry. Seems like a great deal.
The self install looms...insert fingernail biting emoji.
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Its not that bad.
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12-06-2019, 08:28 PM
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Was such a great experience getting the install done at the factory! Thanks Ryan and Kevin for your hospitality!
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12-07-2019, 07:43 AM
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Here's the alignment that was done on my OR. It was included in the $475 install by BKS Built Trucks, LLC in Springfield, MO.
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12-07-2019, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ax2021
@ nimby
is right. Get caster to specs,which is closer to 4* aftermarket uca will make it happen and the best way to do it when you install full suspension at the same time. I know they’re not cheap, but I would look at JBA . Price, quality and costumer service are great. Just installed those 2 months ago and really happy with them. I mean you’ve got Eibach PRO kit, can’t go wrong with them just do it right first time and you’re will see the difference.
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OK, I sucked it up and bought the JBAs. Thanks for your input.
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12-07-2019, 01:17 PM
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9 out of 10 we install here do not get arms.
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Hi Ryan & Kevin,
Thanks for the great deal on the Pro Truck lift kit. It has not yet been installed, and after reading I wanted to check the recommendation for UCA's. I have purchased new KYB top hats so whoever installs this, that should make the task easier (still thinking about the road trip to Corona, Kevin  )
Truck will be used 95% street & highway and tires are 265/70 17 Wildpeaks and will not be going bigger..
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12-07-2019, 01:48 PM
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Its not that bad.
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Thanks, man. I've read your various posts and have found them very helpful.
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12-07-2019, 02:06 PM
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OK, I sucked it up and bought the JBAs. Thanks for your input.
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When you get it done with the installation do 1st alignment. Get Toe, Camber in specs, caster will be @ high # 5+. Don’t worry, you drive at least 500-700 miles, let the shocks, springs settle. Then you can get your caster in specs. Good luck
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