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People do it off road all the time. There are several possible techniques. Isn't "in a pinch" exactly what we're discussing here?
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Indeed, what we're discussing is CURRENT and typical solutions. What I'm asking about is a different solution.
The whole replace the tire solution requires having the space (and weight) capacity to haul around the replacement tire (or scavenge to find a suitable replacement).
What I'm asking about is a solution that would simply allow you to foam fill a heavily damaged tire which could allow you to limp along for an extended amount of time until you find a different tire to swap.
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05-31-2018, 10:04 AM
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Rather than lug around replacement tires or spend time looking for a set to steal or salvage, wouldn't it be a great solution if you could have a compressed/canned inflation medium in your rig that you could simply fill up the damaged tire to keep you going (for an extended period of time) till you could figure things out?
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Better yet, how about a magic wand that you can just wave and fix everything? That would be awesome!
Seriously though, no such product exists. How would you keep the foam from just spurting out of a sidewall tear? There are some foam fill products out there for industrial applications, but you fill the tire BEFORE there is damage and you give it time to cure. But these are only for industrial applications. Nobody runs this on highway vehicles because it creates balance issues and a much harsher ride.
If such a product existed it would be a top-selling accessory for Colorado off-roaders. Believe it or not you're not the first person to figure out that flats in the middle of nowhere are a PITA.
If we're wandering off topic here it's because the answer to your original question is simply "no".
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05-31-2018, 10:45 AM
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a high volume compressor can absolutely seat a tire, or you can get an air tank for even higher volume. i'm not sure i understand your concern, this is something people do regularly, you just need to practice.
you can patch a sidewall puncture, it's just not something you want to do for highway speeds but in an emergency situation it will still work. the example i gave above about stitching the hole closed with wire was on a sidewall.
any puncture or damage that can be filled with any of the slime products can be fixed with a plug or patch kit
you could also get split rims and tube tires and carry plenty of tubes, but modern tubeless tire is going to be more rugged and reliable
there is no magic foam that can fill a damaged tire in the field. and if you don't have the space/weight to carry a rimless spare you also don't have the space/weight to carry a giant tub of sealant and the pump adapter for it
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05-31-2018, 11:40 AM
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My South Florida, Irma evacuation vehicle. I carry an ARB patch kit and the basic tools a recovery gear necessary to fix a tire. As others have stated I don’t know of any fill or foam that would work. The biggest issue that I and everyone else ran into is fuel. I was able to get out of state, but it was tricky. On the way back I bought extra gas cans. Because it’s 400 miles to get out of state I figure with 20 gallons of extra fuel I can at least get out of state and then some. The Gas buddy app is also super helpful. I know this isn’t really answering your questions but it’s the best I got.
I’ve also been looking into travel trailers, mainly for camping and moving my RTT to, but I think it would also be the best option/addition for this scenario as well (The hitch carrier did its job, but not the best/ideal solution).
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05-31-2018, 12:38 PM
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Consider a sidewall puncture, which virtually NO patch or plug kit is going to remedy and you're either far away from help or any typical tire store/help is shuttered and you still need to keep going.
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I used to assume the same thing but have been proven wrong. I don't mind knowing that I have a chance of repairing a sidewall to get me out of a jam.
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. So if one were say, hundreds of miles from help/civilization/tire replacement and had already run out of viable patching solutions....
Consider a sidewall puncture, which virtually NO patch or plug kit is going to remedy and you're either far away from help or any typical tire store/help is shuttered and you still need to keep going.
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Have you ever heard of inner tubes??
They can be used in tubeless tires.
Break the bead, remove old valve stem, insert tube, thread valve stem
Sidewalls can be stapled or sewn..not easy but have seen it done
https://youtu.be/_bctAjk0MCI
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OP - I would keep an eye out for these products when they grow beyond ATV sized tires
(502) 243-1601, www.tireballs.com
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The best tires for a bug out scenario are a good pair of boots. Would recommend cardio + weight training exercises daily, 6 days a week.  |
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My favorite thing about the pepper industry is the amount of 300+ lb people spending real money on prepper supplies when getting in shape would be a much better investment
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How bout a good poncho...I hear they accomplish most things in a survival/zombie apoc... may have a tire application too
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I stayed for Hurricane Andrew...probably one of my dumbest decisions as i got real lucky through that one.
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Hence my question about a "kit" and not using solid tires.
You guys keep meandering off. I never said hurricane evac was my only goal.
I'm simply asking a question (which the basic response is, no kit or method exists that anyone knows of) if someone has explored a kit that could convert the tires to solid core in a pinch. So if one were say, hundreds of miles from help/civilization/tire replacement and had already run out of viable patching solutions, would there be a compact/canned kit that could fill the tires (as a medium term solution which might require longer time till new replacement tires can be acquired).
I'm not advocating driving around on solid core tires. I'm asking if anyone's considered something more robust than tire patches or run flats, OTHER than simply dragging around a replacement set of tires.
Consider a sidewall puncture, which virtually NO patch or plug kit is going to remedy and you're either far away from help or any typical tire store/help is shuttered and you still need to keep going.
Rather than lug around replacement tires or spend time looking for a set to steal or salvage, wouldn't it be a great solution if you could have a compressed/canned inflation medium in your rig that you could simply fill up the damaged tire to keep you going (for an extended period of time) till you could figure things out?
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Hi MidnightOffRoad, I found this thread browsing about Run Flat Tires and was wondering if this product might be something close to what you are looking for: Flats Over Run Flat Inserts - US VEHICLE SECURITY GROUP.
Some Off-roaders have said that it might be a good device to get in case they get a blowout outdoors. Do you guys agree?
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Mods should delete this stupid thread. There are plenty of 'What tires should I buy?' threads to nauseate readers. We dont need a prepper flavored one.
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E-rated KO2s are fairly indestructible. I've abused the heck out of them and the only issue in 4 years is having to plug one of them after a slow leak that turned out to be a large nail stuck in the tire. They are not great in wet conditions though. I carry a VIAIR pump made for RVs that works great. I'd suggest carrying a small backup inflator attachment, my main one has got clogged up with grit.
Really you're more likely to die in an every day car accident than SHTF event though.
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