User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 9 votes, 3.22 average. Display Modes
Old 06-16-2018, 01:48 PM #1
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
Designing a PCK for the 5th Gen, need some input..

Hey guys, I designed a panhard correction kit for the 3rd Gen 4Runners that has proven to be quite beneficial for restoring stock geometry and improving handling after lifting the trucks (- if you're unfamiliar with my kit, check this link and the links included in that thread.)

So now I'm working on a similar kit for the 5th Generation 4Runner, but need some input, since I'm a 3rd gen guy ;)

Specifically, what are the typical lift heights for these trucks (rear specifically)?
2 inch? 3 inch? 4inch? etc.

The donor truck I'm working from has an OME/Bilstein combo and the rear is lifted almost 3.75" (measuring the panhard angle) - is this typical? Should I design for lifts in the 4-5 inch range also?

Thanks in advance for the wisdom & advice!
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2018, 08:20 PM #2
Jdholder Jdholder is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: California
Posts: 71
Jdholder is on a distinguished road
Jdholder Jdholder is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: California
Posts: 71
Jdholder is on a distinguished road
I’ve seen anywhere from 2.5 to 3.5” lifts as “standard” for 5th gen.

I have a 3.5” Toytec Lift on mine. Interested in what you might be offering.

Thanks!
__________________
Jon - 2014 SR5 - Toytec BOSS - Camburg UCA’s - Cooper 285/75/17 - BMC - ADVFiberglass Fenders - Plastics Guy Bumps - EIMkeith PCK - TRD CAI - RCI Skids - Spidertrax - MagnaFlow Cat Back - Blendmount - Valentine One - ProClip - Kicker Subaru Tweeters - Braided Lines - Brakes Still Suck
Jdholder is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-16-2018, 10:50 PM #3
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdholder View Post
I’ve seen anywhere from 2.5 to 3.5” lifts as “standard” for 5th gen.

I have a 3.5” Toytec Lift on mine. Interested in what you might be offering.

Thanks!
that's fantastic - I can do both 2.5 and 3.5 on the axle lift bracket alone! terrific.
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 08:42 AM #4
Dave 41079 Dave 41079 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 92
Dave 41079 is on a distinguished road
Dave 41079 Dave 41079 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 92
Dave 41079 is on a distinguished road
I was just thinking about this yesterday. I'm interested to see where this goes.
Dave 41079 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 10:41 AM #5
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave 41079 View Post
I was just thinking about this yesterday. I'm interested to see where this goes.


Working on version 2 today:







This has holes at 2.4 and 3.4 inches of lift; the maximum and still clear the crossmember at full flex.

Will update when my print is finished.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 10:46 AM #6
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
Is there a need to make a drop bracket for the frame side also? - the drop bracket would be for leveling the bar if one was running 4.5 to 6" of lift..

?

if there isn't a need, it will certainly help keep the manufacturing costs down.
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 11:31 AM #7
atchcraft's Avatar
atchcraft atchcraft is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cameron Park, CA
Posts: 393
atchcraft will become famous soon enough atchcraft will become famous soon enough
atchcraft atchcraft is offline
Member
atchcraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Cameron Park, CA
Posts: 393
atchcraft will become famous soon enough atchcraft will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by eimkeith View Post
Hey guys, I designed a panhard correction kit for the 3rd Gen 4Runners that has proven to be quite beneficial for restoring stock geometry and improving handling after lifting the trucks (- if you're unfamiliar with my kit, check this link and the links included in that thread.)

So now I'm working on a similar kit for the 5th Generation 4Runner, but need some input, since I'm a 3rd gen guy ;)

Specifically, what are the typical lift heights for these trucks (rear specifically)?
2 inch? 3 inch? 4inch? etc.

The donor truck I'm working from has an OME/Bilstein combo and the rear is lifted almost 3.75" (measuring the panhard angle) - is this typical? Should I design for lifts in the 4-5 inch range also?

Thanks in advance for the wisdom & advice!
I really like the design on the 3rd Gen’s. Great idea too. Most of the 2” or 3” springs. I’m running 3, but have no idea what the lift came out to. I’m getting read to make some rear links, so I’m looking forward to seeing how these turn out.
atchcraft is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 04:37 PM #8
mikey's2010SR5's Avatar
mikey's2010SR5 mikey's2010SR5 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,455
Real Name: Mike
mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough
mikey's2010SR5 mikey's2010SR5 is offline
Senior Member
mikey's2010SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,455
Real Name: Mike
mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough
I have no clue about the physics behind this but....

Don't you want to adjust both the frame side and axle side to keep things factory or does it matter?
mikey's2010SR5 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 04:38 PM #9
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light


We have a kit, y’all.





I’m not sure we need to go beyond 4” lift, so unless I hear otherwise, I’ll send this out for quotes first of the week.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 04:43 PM #10
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikey's2010SR5 View Post
I have no clue about the physics behind this but....



Don't you want to adjust both the frame side and axle side to keep things factory or does it matter?


Hi Mikey - if you can do it on the axle side only it actually improves the roll center. On the 3rd gen, because of the frame architecture we were limited to a 2” lift on the axle side, so we used a drop on the frame side to level those who used 3 and 4” lifts - with no penalty over stock (since the bar was returned to a neutral height and leveled)

On the 5th gen, we can get up to 3.4” lift on the axle side, which is phenomenal, and actually improves the roll center. Very exciting.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 04:48 PM #11
mikey's2010SR5's Avatar
mikey's2010SR5 mikey's2010SR5 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,455
Real Name: Mike
mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough
mikey's2010SR5 mikey's2010SR5 is offline
Senior Member
mikey's2010SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 3,455
Real Name: Mike
mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough mikey's2010SR5 will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by eimkeith View Post
Hi Mikey - if you can do it on the axle side only it actually improves the roll center. On the 3rd gen, because of the frame architecture we were limited to a 2” lift on the axle side, so we used a drop on the frame side to level those who used 3 and 4” lifts - with no penalty over stock (since the bar was returned to a neutral height and leveled)

On the 5th gen, we can get up to 3.4” lift on the axle side, which is phenomenal, and actually improves the roll center. Very exciting.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Ok, well call me intrigued and interested since I need one and don't like the idea of an adjustable bar since that is not the correct way to fix the problem in my opinion.
mikey's2010SR5 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 05:14 PM #12
eimkeith's Avatar
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
eimkeith eimkeith is offline
Official Vendor
eimkeith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,471
eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light eimkeith is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikey's2010SR5 View Post
Ok, well call me intrigued and interested since I need one and don't like the idea of an adjustable bar since that is not the correct way to fix the problem in my opinion.


You’re my favorite today, buddy. ;)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________
keith
eimkeith.com
all product descriptions © eimkeith LLC 2016-2023
eimkeith is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 05:36 PM #13
Jdholder Jdholder is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: California
Posts: 71
Jdholder is on a distinguished road
Jdholder Jdholder is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: California
Posts: 71
Jdholder is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by eimkeith View Post
Hi Mikey - if you can do it on the axle side only it actually improves the roll center. On the 3rd gen, because of the frame architecture we were limited to a 2” lift on the axle side, so we used a drop on the frame side to level those who used 3 and 4” lifts - with no penalty over stock (since the bar was returned to a neutral height and leveled)

On the 5th gen, we can get up to 3.4” lift on the axle side, which is phenomenal, and actually improves the roll center. Very exciting.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Put me down as customer #1. :-)
__________________
Jon - 2014 SR5 - Toytec BOSS - Camburg UCA’s - Cooper 285/75/17 - BMC - ADVFiberglass Fenders - Plastics Guy Bumps - EIMkeith PCK - TRD CAI - RCI Skids - Spidertrax - MagnaFlow Cat Back - Blendmount - Valentine One - ProClip - Kicker Subaru Tweeters - Braided Lines - Brakes Still Suck
Jdholder is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 06:12 PM #14
Pathfinder5243's Avatar
Pathfinder5243 Pathfinder5243 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 164
Pathfinder5243 is on a distinguished road
Pathfinder5243 Pathfinder5243 is offline
Member
Pathfinder5243's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 164
Pathfinder5243 is on a distinguished road
I’ll take one for my 4th gen.
__________________
06' T4R 4.0 LTD 4X4
Pathfinder5243 is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 06:26 PM #15
MyanRagahis's Avatar
MyanRagahis MyanRagahis is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 393
MyanRagahis will become famous soon enough MyanRagahis will become famous soon enough
MyanRagahis MyanRagahis is offline
Member
MyanRagahis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 393
MyanRagahis will become famous soon enough MyanRagahis will become famous soon enough
Awesome timing. A few months ago my alignment guy said my axle looked to be 3/4" over to the right. I did some research but it didn't seem like a 2" lift in the rear should throw it off that much. Of course I could have gained a bit more than the intended height. I can physically see a bit more tire right while on level ground though compared to the left. I may consider this if it wouldn't hurt anything. Should only make it better?
__________________
YouTube

Last edited by MyanRagahis; 06-17-2018 at 06:30 PM.
MyanRagahis is offline   Reply With QuoteReply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Designing a custom front bumper CPT2nr88 3rd gen T4Rs 20 02-06-2020 05:09 AM
Help with designing a circuit for reverse lights louxwe 5th gen T4Rs 2 11-29-2016 01:52 PM
Shameless Ask for Help Designing a Decal joneseyyy 5th gen T4Rs 26 08-07-2013 09:33 AM
Help w/ designing my bumper Park 3rd gen T4Rs 7 04-25-2013 08:53 PM
I'm designing some 4runner t-shirts the_josh General Discussions 9 10-05-2010 02:05 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:26 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
***This site is an unofficial Toyota site, and is not officially endorsed, supported, authorized by or affiliated with Toyota. All company, product, or service names references in this web site are used for identification purposes only and may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Toyota name, marks, designs and logos, as well as Toyota model names, are registered trademarks of Toyota Motor Corporation***Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
 
Copyright © 2020