Originally Posted by thecalm_7

80000 miles, 3 new AC Blower fans (400 parts and labor), 3 Driver Door Actuators (800$ parts and labor each), soon to be 3 on passenger side, issue with passenger seat chiming like someone isn't wearing belt (dealer wants over 1000$), navigation/Bluetooth/headunit never worked correctly (2500), new window motor in 3 windows (400 each). Driver side front sounds like im torturing a cat when using it, neither rear charger work. replaced wiper motor too. Various weather stripping has gotten sticky/tacky, cracked, rear 4 runner plaque cracked (300)
I bought the 4runner to be able to go through some areas where ground clearance is an issue, nothing special, no luxury features, just a purpose built truck. However at 5000miles, I did have these issues, and the dealer ignored them with BS excuses of no CEL=No fix, so all of this is on my dime. I have nexer had to replace so many parts or have so many gremlins constantly in a vehicle with so few features. I am in FL so AC is a must, Locking my doors is a must. Frame rust I don't care about really, but it is a shame considering I still have an S10 with 400k with less rust and have only had to replace the 3rd door handle and radiator) Aside from taking it to the dealer to find out whats wrong, Im replacing the parts with OEM. My MINI while running inconsistent didn't give me this kind of problem. If it were lux features, sure, but necessary funtions of the vehicle shouldn't have this kind of failure. I baby this thing compared to many on here. I like RWD and ground clearance and wanted internal storage vs a conventional truck bed.
Im happy for everyone who has a reliable runner, but mine is not. Being paid off and 80k on the ODO, its time to say get rid of it before something else comes along.

Originally Posted by Orc

Japanese cars always did rust bad. VW was the first brand to galvanize both sides of the sheet metal on all panels even the roof. Keeping vehicles 10 years and expecting anything other than a old vehicle that's due to be replaced is crazy.

Originally Posted by pDubs

I had glitchy bluetooth as well and did an update, fixed everything. Super simple to do, took like 10 minutes. Just need a usb stick.

Toyota Downloads

Originally Posted by GreenPM

I have the same on my 2015. Same spot. Not enough reason for me to want to sell it though.

Originally Posted by Max4R808

Can you share pics of your rust? I'd recommend checking out the front bumper support frame pieces too... Mine have totally rusted out due to the water absorbing foam pieces.... Well that and it rains a lot here.

I submitted a complaint to NHSTA for frontal impact safety concerns.

Originally Posted by LandCruiser

It's the constant salt... everywhere. I've seen 2-3 year old cars in HI that look like 20 year old shitboxes from NY.

Originally Posted by Max4R808

Can you share pics of your rust? I'd recommend checking out the front bumper support frame pieces too... Mine have totally rusted out due to the water absorbing foam pieces.... Well that and it rains a lot here.

I submitted a complaint to NHSTA for frontal impact safety concerns.

Originally Posted by Jetboy

Did you buy new? It has a lot of hallmarks of a crash that was rebuilt with aftermarket parts. You can see how bad the rust is on the parts that might have been replaced compared to the ones right next to them.

It does look really bad. Not sure if I'd go as a total loss yet, but you're getting close in my book.

Originally Posted by Max4R808

No, its a 2014 I bought about a month ago... Didn't notice the rust until putting on the front valence. Have you taken a look at your 4runner lately?

I highly doubt the parts were replaced. The bumper support that looks mostly intact is pretty bad as well, I pushed a screw driver through it easily.

The bumper supports have the same foam covering the holes that would allow them to breath/drain.

Originally Posted by LandCruiser

While it may be rust, the pinch weld in the crossmember in front of the radiator looks bulged, that's only what you see if it's been in an accident. They can't fix that part without replacing yuge parts of the front end.

Originally Posted by Max4R808

No, its a 2014 I bought about a month ago... Didn't notice the rust until putting on the front valence. Have you taken a look at your 4runner lately?

I highly doubt the parts were replaced. The bumper support that looks mostly intact is pretty bad as well, I pushed a screw driver through it easily.

The bumper supports have the same foam covering the holes that would allow them to breath/drain.

Originally Posted by Jetboy

Mine looks nothing at all like that. Minor surface rust on the welds is about it. I live by the great salt lake. Morton salt's salt ponds are only about 40 miles from my house. So - salt is basically free and the highway maintenance folks use a lot of it. But even then it's probably not really at all like the constant humidity you get in Hawaii. You've got salt and humidity together a lot.

I'd be really upset if my frame looked like that after 6 years. I think that is a dangerous amount of rust and if it really hasn't been damaged, Toyota should be looking into it. And I would never be able to use my winch. It attaches to the frame horn plates. It would rip them right off in that condition. That rust doesn't have to spread all that much further back before you're looking at probably needing a complete frame swap. I'm not an expert on how to stop it, but it would probably be worth finding out what you can do to get it fixed before it becomes something like a total loss of the vehicle.

It's a real bummer to see this however it happened. Do you see anything like this on other local toyota frames?