01-06-2020, 09:55 AM
|
#61
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Maryland
Posts: 416
|
|
Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Maryland
Posts: 416
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin
Mine appears in low temps (didn't hear it all spring, summer, or fall) at 40-55mph especially under deceleration/coasting. The part where mine is a little different is that I can go into 4WD and come back out and the noise will be gone for the remainder of the trip sometimes.
|
Mine does this sometimes (maybe 20-25% of the time)... The road to our neighborhood is a long straight one w/ a 50mph speed limit so I've gone up and down in many times switching on the fly between 2wd/4wd and have noticed it not immediately return sometimes. I'm still fairly set that it is the needle bearing going bad (or having gone bad already I guess), and hopefully will get a chance within the next two weeks to have it installed
__________________
'21 Tundra DC - |Aluma 2.5s/SPC/Dobinsons HD|Skinny 35s|DECKED|Dual Batteries|eXcelon Reference/Hertz Dieci/Kicker|ARB Elements|LRA Tank|LFD Bed Rack|CVT Mt Hood|ARB 2000|Everything Diode Dynamics|
'21 Tacoma TRD-OR DCLB - GF's Truck - |Aluma 2.5s/SPC/AAL/Durobumps/U-Bolt Flip|Level8 Mk6|ARB Single|ARB ZERO|Everything Diode Dynamics|
'18 4Runner TRD-OR - SOLD!
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-06-2020, 10:13 AM
|
#62
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 142
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 142
|
Does anyone what production changes were made to the front diff after the production change vin?
My vehicle falls after there was a change made.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-08-2020, 01:50 PM
|
#63
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
My 17 is at the dealer right now getting a new one put in. They didn't fight me on it or anything. I just took it in, presented the TSB and they said we will take care of it without even driving it. I'm lifted 2.5" front and 2" rear as well.
__________________
2017 MGM TRD Off Road Premium
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-08-2020, 03:08 PM
|
#64
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 262
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 262
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by arehman11
My 17 is at the dealer right now getting a new one put in. They didn't fight me on it or anything. I just took it in, presented the TSB and they said we will take care of it without even driving it. I'm lifted 2.5" front and 2" rear as well.
|
I did the same thing, got a new diff put in last week, although I'm actually bringing it back tomorrow to get it looked at because the sensation is still present, only it feels different now, a higher, tighter and faster vibration resonance that is actually more persistent than before.
The sensation still instantly goes away in 4Hi. Hoping they get is resolved otherwise I will be installing the ECGS bushing and calling it a wash since I got a fresh front diff at 50,000 miles.
__________________
| - 2016 Turd Bro - |
SSO Slimline / x20 | Dobinsons 314/327 - Airlift 1000 | Gobi Stealth Rack W/ Ladder | Dobinsons Snorkel | All Pro Sliders | Shrockworks Rear Bumper | 285 BFG KO2
Last edited by samwhich; 01-08-2020 at 03:42 PM.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-08-2020, 09:26 PM
|
#65
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Norwich, CT
Posts: 17
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Norwich, CT
Posts: 17
|
Glad to know this fix seems to work. I will be visiting the dealership this weekend with my 2017. The vibration has been driving me crazy!
Funny thing is I agree with a lot who mentioned temperature. I'm in CT and its been in the 30s lately and its very noticeable especially the colder it gets.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-09-2020, 12:02 AM
|
#66
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 257
|
|
Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kirkland, WA
Posts: 257
|
Really glad that I'm not the only one experiencing this issue, but I cannot get my local dealership to take it seriously at all. They blame my tires, my lift, etc. I show them the service bulletin and they say they can't replicate it so I just deal with it.
What are the long term negative consequences of not taking care of this?
__________________
1987 Classic Silver 22re - Stock
2015 Classic Silver Trail Premium
Lift: Dobinson C59-314 Front Coils, C59-725 Rear Coils, Total Chaos Upper Control Arms
Wheels: 17x8.5" FN Overland Spec B Gunmetal
Tires: 285/70/17 Cooper Maxx S/T
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-09-2020, 11:21 AM
|
#67
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: eastern Canada
Posts: 1,311
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: eastern Canada
Posts: 1,311
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by williamlv282
Really glad that I'm not the only one experiencing this issue, but I cannot get my local dealership to take it seriously at all. They blame my tires, my lift, etc. I show them the service bulletin and they say they can't replicate it so I just deal with it.
What are the long term negative consequences of not taking care of this?
|
Ask to ride along with the tech. Show them the sound and vibration stops when shifted in to 4hi and have them acknowledge it is consistent with the service bulletin
Or go to another dealership and insist to ride along with the tech there.
I have a toyota dealership 10 minutes from my house, but I drive an hour to a great dealership that knows a lot about 4runners and customer service (I actually bought my 4runner there for the same reason-- much better attitude and customer service.) toyota service departments are definitely not all equal. If they won't help, don't bother with them.
__________________
_______________________
2015 trail edition premium w/ KDSS
OPOR sliders ● 255/75/17 firestone destination AT ●
King coilovers and shocks w/ compression adjust ● Dirtking UCAs ● Icon 2" rear springs
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-10-2020, 09:09 AM
|
#68
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 49
Real Name: Steve
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 49
Real Name: Steve
|
As I posted earlier in this thread and in another thread addressing this groaning/vibration issue, my problem & resolution was the needle bearing. The groaning/vibration in my 2017 SR5 with 2 in lift and nitto grapplers was most noticeable when it was cold, between 35-40 mph, & would go away in 4WD. Unfortunately when I took it to the dealer, the temperatures had warmed, and the groan/vibration was not noticeable. The dealer punted - tried blaming it on the tires and alignment. I went through the effort of getting new alignment, etc. Then spent the entire spring, summer, & fall of 2018 without hearing/feeling the groan/vibration. On the first cold day, the groan/vibration “reappeared”. I took it straight to the dealer, & essentially begged them to review the TSB. The technician heard/felt the groan/vibration, however, so they replaced the needle bearing. I’ve had no issues with the groan/vibration since then.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-10-2020, 02:08 PM
|
#69
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
So my dealer had gotten a hold of a new diff for me and was scheduled to complete the next day, but looks like it was already claimed by another dealer. They had to ship a diff from NY and say there are almost 40 ordered for dealers in the Midwest and are getting harder to come by due to back order. Mine is supposedly arriving tomorrow, but a winter storm could delay that. Hopefully I'll have mine back Monday or Tuesday. They did give me a pretty loaded up new Rav4, while it isn't quite a 4runner, I must say it is an extremely nice daily driver with lots of creature comforts that 4runner's don't have such as a heated steering wheel.
__________________
2017 MGM TRD Off Road Premium
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-21-2020, 12:32 PM
|
#70
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: New Hope, PA
Posts: 1
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: New Hope, PA
Posts: 1
|
Deep Droning Hum Sound in Front Differential
2019 TRD 4-Runner with under 30k started making a deep low pitch droning or humming noise at varying speeds as well as in both neutral and drive. The noise is intermittent, yet repetitive. It does go away for short periods of time and then returns. I took it in today to Toyota and they have concluded that the Front Differential is malfunctioning. Evidently this is a evolving Manufacturer Defect and there are enough cases already to bring scarcity to the Differential Part itself. There is quite a Substantial waiting period for the part. I would not be the least bit surprised to see a recall on this part if the problem becomes more prolific. Make sure you take care of this ASAP if it is happening to you?! Keep Going.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-21-2020, 02:02 PM
|
#71
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwhich
I did the same thing, got a new diff put in last week, although I'm actually bringing it back tomorrow to get it looked at because the sensation is still present, only it feels different now, a higher, tighter and faster vibration resonance that is actually more persistent than before.
The sensation still instantly goes away in 4Hi. Hoping they get is resolved otherwise I will be installing the ECGS bushing and calling it a wash since I got a fresh front diff at 50,000 miles.
|
I think mine is doing this after the diff replacement as well. What did the dealer say?
__________________
2017 MGM TRD Off Road Premium
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-21-2020, 02:28 PM
|
#72
|
Junior Member
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: MA
Posts: 23
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: MA
Posts: 23
|
My '14 is doing this as well. Thanks for the members posting the TSB's!!!
Anyone in the Boston area who has had success getting the dealership to replace the diff "OUTSIDE" of the 60K mile warranty? I'm at 79K and would love to have a dealership do this for me. I can only hope Toyota does the right thing at this point and voluntarily escalate this to a recall.
Thanks to this forum!!
T.
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-21-2020, 03:03 PM
|
#73
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 262
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 262
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by arehman11
I think mine is doing this after the diff replacement as well. What did the dealer say?
|
My service rep is a cool dude, they did a test drive and confirmed the noise is still there after the fresh diff. A master tech there has a lifted Tacoma and basically said that with any lift on these things theres a good change they will vibrate. Rep said his hands are tied from replacing it again under warranty because he thinks it will keep doing it with my lift, which I totally understand.
He and the master tech agreed that the best bet is what I already knew, and thats to get the ECGS coupler and replace the needle bearing, that is the best long term fix anyways. I went ahead and ordered it, just waiting for a bit nicer weather to install.
I'm still happy I got a fresh diff out the deal at 54,000 miles and am confident that the coupler will fix the issue.
__________________
| - 2016 Turd Bro - |
SSO Slimline / x20 | Dobinsons 314/327 - Airlift 1000 | Gobi Stealth Rack W/ Ladder | Dobinsons Snorkel | All Pro Sliders | Shrockworks Rear Bumper | 285 BFG KO2
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-21-2020, 04:02 PM
|
#74
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 745
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwhich
My service rep is a cool dude, they did a test drive and confirmed the noise is still there after the fresh diff. A master tech there has a lifted Tacoma and basically said that with any lift on these things theres a good change they will vibrate. Rep said his hands are tied from replacing it again under warranty because he thinks it will keep doing it with my lift, which I totally understand.
He and the master tech agreed that the best bet is what I already knew, and thats to get the ECGS coupler and replace the needle bearing, that is the best long term fix anyways. I went ahead and ordered it, just waiting for a bit nicer weather to install.
I'm still happy I got a fresh diff out the deal at 54,000 miles and am confident that the coupler will fix the issue.
|
Awesome, I would say I'm in the same boat being lifted 2.5" as well. I had a master tech do the replacement on mine and my rep is pretty cool too. The tech mentioned the ECGS piece to me as well and I will probably go ahead and do this. I will say it drives better after the new diff is in.
__________________
2017 MGM TRD Off Road Premium
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
01-21-2020, 06:22 PM
|
#75
|
|
Member
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 262
|
|
Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Ankeny, IA
Posts: 262
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by arehman11
Awesome, I would say I'm in the same boat being lifted 2.5" as well. I had a master tech do the replacement on mine and my rep is pretty cool too. The tech mentioned the ECGS piece to me as well and I will probably go ahead and do this. I will say it drives better after the new diff is in.
|
Agreed, mine seems much smoother with a lot less "slop" than before. Everything just feels tighter and much more solid.
__________________
| - 2016 Turd Bro - |
SSO Slimline / x20 | Dobinsons 314/327 - Airlift 1000 | Gobi Stealth Rack W/ Ladder | Dobinsons Snorkel | All Pro Sliders | Shrockworks Rear Bumper | 285 BFG KO2
|
|
Reply With Quote
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|