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can let you know about ladders
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09-11-2019, 08:01 PM
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I installed one of our revised 3/4 racks on my '16 Trail this past weekend as part of its conversion over to the family vehicle.
I've never actually had one of the 3/4s on my own vehicle before. I honestly can't tell its up there. Its by far the quietest rack option we offer, mainly due to sitting farther back out of the wind. Very happy with this little rack setup.
Crummy cell phone pictures from behind the plant tonight
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09-12-2019, 11:09 AM
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I know you've answered this before
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, but I can't find it through a search and its not on the lfd site.
How much does the 7/8 rack with aluminum cross bars weigh? the all aluminum full rack?
Also, how much height do they add to the roof line at their tallest point?
Are there any plans to do the side rails for the 7/8 rack in aluminum instead of steel? How much weight would that save?
Also, do you have any plans to make the wind fairing form to the roof better? In the site photos it appears to just be a straight cut fairing along the bottom that does not contour with the roof.
I know you've mentioned that you're trying to keep skus low and only have one fairing for multiple vehicles, but honestly that's the only thing that has me looking at something other than LFD.
Thanks for your reply.
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09-12-2019, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mscot
I know you've answered this before
@ jafrush
, but I can't find it through a search and its not on the lfd site.
How much does the 7/8 rack with aluminum cross bars weigh? the all aluminum full rack?
Also, how much height do they add to the roof line at their tallest point?
Are there any plans to do the side rails for the 7/8 rack in aluminum instead of steel? How much weight would that save?
Also, do you have any plans to make the wind fairing form to the roof better? In the site photos it appears to just be a straight cut fairing along the bottom that does not contour with the roof.
I know you've mentioned that you're trying to keep skus low and only have one fairing for multiple vehicles, but honestly that's the only thing that has me looking at something other than LFD.
Thanks for your reply.
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The 7/8 aluminum weighs around 50 pounds, the full aluminum around 60 pounds. Both of the aluminum options do have aluminum side rails made out of 1/4" aluminum. The full rack is the tallest, and adds about 5.5" at the rear of the vehicle, which should be your tallest point with a factory rake. The 7/8 is around a half inch shorter.
We're evaluating a few faring options to hug the roof more, but honestly the racks are not that loud as is compared to other brands we've all owned. The Gobi rack that came on the red 4Runner I just bought was much, much louder. Each complete rack does have its own wind faring already, the comment earlier about SKUs was relating to the bolt on faring option for crossbars. Complete racks get a crossbar with an integrated faring instead.
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09-12-2019, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jafrush
I installed one of our revised 3/4 racks on my '16 Trail this past weekend as part of its conversion over to the family vehicle.
I've never actually had one of the 3/4s on my own vehicle before. I honestly can't tell its up there. Its by far the quietest rack option we offer, mainly due to sitting farther back out of the wind. Very happy with this little rack setup.
Crummy cell phone pictures from behind the plant tonight
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Exactly what I want my set up up to be with the exception of using the factory rails (have and like to use my moonroof). Right now I have just the Hi-lift jack mounted. I just need to see if I can fit 1 or 2 Rotopax's to it. I may go with the shorter ARB Tred 800's to see if that gives me more space for them.
Will probably get a hybrid front bumper too eventually. I like the winch access, no other bumper that I know of has that.
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09-12-2019, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mteolus
Exactly what I want my set up up to be with the exception of using the factory rails (have and like to use my moonroof). Right now I have just the Hi-lift jack mounted. I just need to see if I can fit 1 or 2 Rotopax's to it. I may go with the shorter ARB Tred 800's to see if that gives me more space for them.
Will probably get a hybrid front bumper too eventually. I like the winch access, no other bumper that I know of has that.
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I use 4 of the crossbars and was able to fit a hilift, shovel, 2 2gal rotopaxs, and a set of Xbulls
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09-12-2019, 12:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mteolus
Exactly what I want my set up up to be with the exception of using the factory rails (have and like to use my moonroof). Right now I have just the Hi-lift jack mounted. I just need to see if I can fit 1 or 2 Rotopax's to it. I may go with the shorter ARB Tred 800's to see if that gives me more space for them.
Will probably get a hybrid front bumper too eventually. I like the winch access, no other bumper that I know of has that.
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The 3/4 sits behind the sunroof and doesn't interfere at all, and gives you about an additional foot of mounting room versus the stock side rails.
I was able to fit rotopax between the Maxtrax and the hi-lift with my crossbar setup on the factory side rails when I had that setup.
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09-12-2019, 01:27 PM
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I use 4 of the crossbars and was able to fit a hilift, shovel, 2 2gal rotopaxs, and a set of Xbulls
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In some other topic in the General section there was someone that thought the Xbulls could be mounted using the ARB mount for the Treds. Not sure if that is true but that would be cool. Otherwise I guess I'll just the Tred 800's or get the XBulls and get some hardware from the Hardware store. The Tred mounts are expensive though.
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09-12-2019, 03:51 PM
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Just ordered my SR5 and am super excited. LFD looks to be the best option for keeping the stock roof rails. I have a 14' paddle board that will be going up on top. Do I have to wait until I'm out of warranty to add a full (3/4) rack?
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09-12-2019, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mteolus
In some other topic in the General section there was someone that thought the Xbulls could be mounted using the ARB mount for the Treds. Not sure if that is true but that would be cool. Otherwise I guess I'll just the Tred 800's or get the XBulls and get some hardware from the Hardware store. The Tred mounts are expensive though.
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I just use 3/8" SS carriage bolts for my bolts, the square part of the carriage bolt fits right into the slot. I used either 3" or 3.5" (cant remember) carriage bolts and a wing nut for my xbulls.
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09-12-2019, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mteolus
In some other topic in the General section there was someone that thought the Xbulls could be mounted using the ARB mount for the Treds. Not sure if that is true but that would be cool. Otherwise I guess I'll just the Tred 800's or get the XBulls and get some hardware from the Hardware store. The Tred mounts are expensive though.
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haha I believe that was me! Sorry forgot to update you on that. The ARD mount did NOT work with the Xbulls. The width was just a tad short. IF you wanted you could make the hole bigger on the Xbulls. I ended up just making my own mount.
Originally went with Carriage bolts but switched them out to 5.5in SS -Threaded rods (5/16). Allows me to remove them quickly (my other accessory mounts are attached via a Tnut). I use a wing nut+washer on the bottom part and a nut + rubber wash on top. The rubber washer keeps the mount from vibrating. To secure the boards I use a clamping nut along with a 1/2in pvc pipe. All in all, very happy with it
photo of all the gear attached (minus shovel)
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09-12-2019, 06:02 PM
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haha I believe that was me! Sorry forgot to update you on that. The ARD mount did NOT work with the Xbulls. The width was just a tad short. IF you wanted you could make the hole bigger on the Xbulls. I ended up just making my own mount.
Originally went with Carriage bolts but switched them out to 5.5in SS -Threaded rods (5/16). Allows me to remove them quickly (my other accessory mounts are attached via a Tnut). I use a wing nut+washer on the bottom part and a nut + rubber wash on top. The rubber washer keeps the mount from vibrating. To secure the boards I use a clamping nut along with a 1/2in pvc pipe. All in all, very happy with it
photo of all the gear attached (minus shovel)
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Thanks for the info.
Regarding the question about putting the LFD side rails on and warranty, I don't know for sure but I highly doubt it will affect your warranty at all. The advantage is about a foot more of space up there to put things. I think the LFD siderails look better than factory too.
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09-12-2019, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jafrush
I installed one of our revised 3/4 racks on my '16 Trail this past weekend as part of its conversion over to the family vehicle.
I've never actually had one of the 3/4s on my own vehicle before. I honestly can't tell its up there. Its by far the quietest rack option we offer, mainly due to sitting farther back out of the wind. Very happy with this little rack setup.
Crummy cell phone pictures from behind the plant tonight
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Heck yeah, man. I have the new 3/4, quiet as a church mouse.
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XD HID's (low) LED's (high), LED swap in and out ~ Rear diff routed along fuel filler pipe ~ LFD 3/4 steel roof rack
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09-12-2019, 06:07 PM
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......A ladder is on our to-do list, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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Well that's just peachy..... another part from LFD to sit and wait for....
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XD HID's (low) LED's (high), LED swap in and out ~ Rear diff routed along fuel filler pipe ~ LFD 3/4 steel roof rack
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09-12-2019, 07:37 PM
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Thanks for the info.
Regarding the question about putting the LFD side rails on and warranty, I don't know for sure but I highly doubt it will affect your warranty at all. The advantage is about a foot more of space up there to put things. I think the LFD siderails look better than factory too.
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The only relevant way I could think it would have anything to do with your warranty is if you had a leak in the headliner, they probably wouldn't warranty that if you had installed a rack. Just apply silicone around and in the hole and it's not a worry.
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