11-29-2022, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnygraphic
@LFD-What size hardware to mount items to your roof rack? I’m shopping for carriage bolts and want to know before playing the guessing game at Home Depot.
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Pretty sure you already went from the later post, but M8 or 3/8 work well.
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11-29-2022, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LFD_Off_Road
Pretty sure you already went from the later post, but M8 or 3/8 work well.
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Thank you! I initially looked for M8 hardware, but couldn’t find any. I just got back with 3/8”. The square part of the carriage bolt does seem to sit just a bit proud of the rack though. I also have washers, but haven’t tried fitting them yet.
Thank you for responding here! Appreciate it.
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11-29-2022, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LFD_Off_Road
Can you try to loosen the bolts on that crossbar and move it higher a little? There should be enough play in the bolt slots to get a little more clearance.
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I will try that next, thank you.
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12-01-2022, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnygraphic
Thank you! I initially looked for M8 hardware, but couldn’t find any. I just got back with 3/8”. The square part of the carriage bolt does seem to sit just a bit proud of the rack though. I also have washers, but haven’t tried fitting them yet.
Thank you for responding here! Appreciate it.
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Just confirming the above. Carriage bolts don’t work. The square part sits too high above the rack. It’ll rattle like crazy. I couldn’t find 3/8 x 18, only 3/8 x 16 course threaded. Had to go back and get regular bolts with lock washers.
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12-02-2022, 01:57 PM
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Mine have been working fine. I use the cross bars for a top box, bike racks, and a Yakima basket and swap out regularly.
Could be a difference in carriage bolts. Sounds like you have something perfectly flush the with cross bar that that is not sitting flat due the the square boss protruding. If I had that problem I'd look at fixing it like this:
1) Use different carriage bolts that have a shallower square section. This might be a PITA. I don't know what standards exist for them (I'm an engine builder, not a chassis guy . . . this is the only time I've really used carriage bolts in an automotive application)
2) Knock the corners off the carriage bolts a bit on the bench grinder. Not all of it, just the part that protrudes.
3) Use a washer with an I.D. large enough to fit over the square section so the square boss no longer sits proud of the cross bar
4) Grind/drill a relief in whatever you're mounting so the square protrusion doesn't not prevent it sitting flat on the bar
Jason
p.s. - I realized the thread spec I originally wrote was wrong and corrected a few days ago. TBH, the thread form doesn't matter, just the diameter. (SAE, Metric, USS, Whitworth, Acme, etc . . . it doesn't matter)
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12-02-2022, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jmcelroy
Mine have been working fine. I use the cross bars for a top box, bike racks, and a Yakima basket and swap out regularly.
Could be a difference in carriage bolts. Sounds like you have something perfectly flush the with cross bar that that is not sitting flat due the the square boss protruding. If I had that problem I'd look at fixing it like this:
1) Use different carriage bolts that have a shallower square section. This might be a PITA. I don't know what standards exist for them (I'm an engine builder, not a chassis guy . . . this is the only time I've really used carriage bolts in an automotive application)
2) Knock the corners off the carriage bolts a bit on the bench grinder. Not all of it, just the part that protrudes.
3) Use a washer with an I.D. large enough to fit over the square section so the square boss no longer sits proud of the cross bar
4) Grind/drill a relief in whatever you're mounting so the square protrusion doesn't not prevent it sitting flat on the bar
Jason
p.s. - I realized the thread spec I originally wrote was wrong and corrected a few days ago. TBH, the thread form doesn't matter, just the diameter. (SAE, Metric, USS, Whitworth, Acme, etc . . . it doesn't matter)
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Thanks for the suggestions! Carriage bolts would've been perfect, but it was easier to run back to HomeDepot and get 2 new regular bolts. Kind of a pain to get a socket underneath it, but just a little jiggling and it worked.
I agree about the dimensions of the carriage bolts. It was a pain enough to find the ones that I did. I might try a trip to Lowes or Ace to see if they have other ones that might work better. But, for a future project. These are already on there and no need to re-do them.
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12-10-2022, 07:01 PM
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I saw this pic and was wondering if anyone can tell me what these tie down loops on this rack are properly called and where I can get them..preferably in stainless. Thanks for any help.
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12-10-2022, 08:13 PM
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I saw this pic and was wondering if anyone can tell me what these tie down loops on this rack are properly called and where I can get them..preferably in stainless. Thanks for any help.
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Those are machinery eye bolts. McMasters has them in 316 stainless - check "Eyebolts - for Lifting". Or check Westechrigging.com for ones made by Crosby - stronger than any load you should put on the rack.
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12-11-2022, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Old Tanker
Those are machinery eye bolts. McMasters has them in 316 stainless - check "Eyebolts - for Lifting". Or check Westechrigging.com for ones made by Crosby - stronger than any load you should put on the rack.
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They are prohibitively expensive (!). Over $20 each just for the bolts. Add in washers and nuts etc and you're well over $100 just for a set of 4.
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12-11-2022, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnygraphic
They are prohibitively expensive (!). Over $20 each just for the bolts. Add in washers and nuts etc and you're well over $100 just for a set of 4.
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Not sure if the size is a match for the LFD, but Prinsu sells them for $30 a pair.
Prinsu Tie Down Ring Hardware Kit - Prinsu Roof Racks
Sherpa Smileys are $25 a pair.
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12-12-2022, 12:12 AM
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What's your lead time on non stainless crossbars for the 5th gen?
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12-12-2022, 08:47 PM
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What's your lead time on non stainless crossbars for the 5th gen?
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If they don't respond, I would send LFD a message from their online website. They responded to my same question about a year ago w/in a day.
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12-25-2022, 10:56 AM
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Does the stainless kit come in black anodized or powder coat? Bought the stainless kit for my wife (loved it) expecting raw stainless, but the kit is black. It does have “5SS” stamped into the steel.
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12-25-2022, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CutthroatSlam
Does the stainless kit come in black anodized or powder coat? Bought the stainless kit for my wife (loved it) expecting raw stainless, but the kit is black. It does have “5SS” stamped into the steel.
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They come Black powder coated. Will match your roof rails and you will have the protection of SS underneath. Good for Montana.
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12-25-2022, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TRD PANTHER
They come Black powder coated. Will match your roof rails and you will have the protection of SS underneath. Good for Montana.
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Her SR5 has the silver roof rails. Maybe her Off-road on order will have black rails. Either way, she loved the gift.
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