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Old 11-25-2021, 12:52 AM #31
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Thanks for the update. I have Icons so I’ll keep that in mind. I think I’ll ride it out with the 650 for a bit and see how it goes.
How much weight do you have above stock? How much preload are you running on the 650s?

Besides the higher spring rate, the Icon 700lb coils are also longer. If you have tons of preload on the 650s to support a lot of weight over stock, you will get better ride quality from the longer 700lb springs with less preload.
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How much weight do you have above stock? How much preload are you running on the 650s?

Besides the higher spring rate, the Icon 700lb coils are also longer. If you have tons of preload on the 650s to support a lot of weight over stock, you will get better ride quality from the longer 700lb springs with less preload.
I have a steel bumper (no winch), skid, rock sliders and a RTT. I'm at about 1.5" of preload on the passenger side and 1.75" on the driver side to even out the lean.

So, the 700lb coils are probably where I need to be. But I'd rather be a little soft than too stiff as I don't normally go ripping across the desert.

I have a dual swing bumper in the rear and went with Dobinson's C59-701V coils, but they were too tall and too stiff. I put the Icon coils back on while I waited for Dobinson's C59-327 coils to come in. The 327's just arrived so I'll add those tomorrow.
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Did you end up putting on the 700lb springs?
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Did you end up putting on the 700lb springs?
I put 700lb Toytec coils on that build. It sagged with an ARB Summit and Warn Zeon 10k winch.

I have 700lb Elka coils now but haven't had time to order a bumper and winch yet.
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700 lbs springs is going to ride really rough i have a full bumper with a winch and steel skids and its still to much spring go with 650
I agree with this. I added a Shrockwork steel front bumper and a 10,000lb Warren Wench. My weight was about 140lb. Originally I had a 700lb Bilstein spring which Bilstein recommended and my nose sat too high. I replaced it with a 650lb spring. Now it sits level.

That said, other brand may use different type of steel which may make it sit a little lower. I will say that the Bilstein are a stiffer ride.
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i run 700lb front w/ a demello aluminum bumper, aluminum skids, winch, group 35 battery, lots of gussetting, suspension components, and a bunch of random bolt ons, and they ride a bit firm, but its perfect for me.

The 700lb w/ no preload and heavy duty dobinsons rear springs for a 2.5F/2R inch lift gave me a perfect amount of rake, and lift.

I could have gone with 650/ w some preload, and gotten the same results.

Don't forget the rear suspension is just as important, unless you want saggy ass syndrome.
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I'll take your 700's and raise you Dobinson 730's (C59-354).

I'm heavy with bull bar, skids, winch, etc..

Rides great.
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So I just added a Warn semi hidden bumper and 10k winch and it’s very obvious my full OME lift with heavy front springs isn’t up for the job. Would the 700lb King springs be a direct fit for my current lift?
I have WARN"s winch bumper insert and an M8000 winch - a similar setup, I'd say?

I have Dobinsons 150-200lb over springs and maintain a 2.5-3" lift. Works well.
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