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Old 05-21-2019, 11:11 AM #16
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I’m happy that I made the switch from Jeep to Toyota. After all the stuff I did to the Jeep, I wanted to keep it simple and went with the 19 Pro. I did not plan to mess with the suspension. That being said, I would feel better with a winch since some of my hunting trails are deep and can get pretty wet. I ordered a c4 bumper last month and it shipped two days ago. I picked up a winch and am concerned the total weight will cause the front to sit much lower.

I thought I could simply change out the coils but after several calls, I have had zero luck finding a solution.

Has anyone added weight? If so what were the results or if you found heavier coils.

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I added RCI DOM sliders and aluminum skids past the transfer case.

Recently, I parked next to a newer 2019 TRD Pro in a parking lot that had zero modifications.

The front bumper on the other TRDP was about 1/2 to 3/4 higher than mine...

Also, when I'm just beginning to move forward, very slowly, if I tap the brakes, the front end seems to have a small bounce to it and the vehicle feels like it's rocking fore and aft ever so slightly... not sure if this is typical.

The only thing I can think of is that I've been of road now several times now and have hit some decent bumps at approximately 25+ MPH... I've also run some washboard roads at 50+ MPH... Perhaps that compressed the springs a bit in the front and I lost a little height.

Does anyone have any Thoughts on that? @Dobinsons Mike
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I added RCI DOM sliders and aluminum skids past the transfer case.

Recently, I parked next to a newer 2019 TRD Pro in a parking lot that had zero modifications.

The front bumper on the other TRDP was about 1/2 to 3/4 higher than mine...

Also, when I'm just beginning to move forward, very slowly, if I tap the brakes, the front end seems to have a small bounce to it and the vehicle feels like it's rocking fore and aft ever so slightly... not sure if this is typical.

The only thing I can think of is that I've been of road now several times now and have hit some decent bumps at approximately 25+ MPH... I've also run some washboard roads at 50+ MPH... Perhaps that compressed the springs a bit in the front and I lost a little height.

Does anyone have any Thoughts on that? @Dobinsons Mike
With the new Pro Fox suspension?

Weight causes squatting, not necessarily use of the vehicle offroad, so possibly the weight you've added is what's caused yours to be lower. Unless his maybe just rolled off the lot and hasn't settled yet.

Bilstein Pro suspension was 1" taller than standard models, but I'm not sure what Fox is doing. We don't make any coils for the Fox parts.
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With the new Pro Fox suspension?

Weight causes squatting, not necessarily use of the vehicle offroad, so possibly the weight you've added is what's caused yours to be lower. Unless his maybe just rolled off the lot and hasn't settled yet.

Bilstein Pro suspension was 1" taller than standard models, but I'm not sure what Fox is doing. We don't make any coils for the Fox parts.
Mike, thanks for the quick reply.

Yes, the 2019 Fox suspension on the TRD Pro.

I was thinking the same thing too, as far as the settling... The owner of the other 2019 TRDP (a lady in her 50s maybe) said she hadn't taken it off road at all, and she'd done nothing to it... straight off the lot a few months ago...

So maybe hers was sitting a bit higher because the springs hadn't been really used much at all except for normal driving.

The funny thing is that I remember hitting some decent bumps on a stretch of dirt road, but the suspension just ate it up... very comfortable... When I got home though, I remember doing a double take, thinking that the front fenders and hood seemed a bit lower... Thought it was in my head until I saw the other 2019... The difference to me visually, was definitely noticeable.

I didn't expect to lose that much height due to settling.
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My ‘19 Pro is bone stock right now. FWIW the ‘19 Pro front end definately sits slightly lower than a Pro with the Bilstein TRD Pro suspension, ie 2018 and older Pro’s. My other half has a 2017 with TRD Pro suspension(Bilstein) and Pro wheels as well. Front is higher on hers. Weight will add squat on any vehicle.
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I didn't see any drop in front when I added C4 bumper and 10k winch .. I highly suggest the corn-fed type of spacers to even out the front
Did you install that on your TRD Pro? Which year is your TRD Pro?
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I thought, that I read that Eibach is make a front spring to replace the 2019 TRD Pro Fox front spring to increase lift. I could be wrong.
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Tagging this thread for the future. I'll be adding weight to my 2020, so I might be wanting an option to offset it.

Spacers seem like a bit of a Rube Goldberg attempt at a fix to this issue. It aesthetically would look right, but functionally? Eh...
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Did you install that on your TRD Pro? Which year is your TRD Pro?
No had my friend do it at his shop. 2017
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Added a hidden winch bumper, winch, rack/RTT, carry 4 people and more recently pull a 1200lb trailer. I went with a OME 3rd with Med Spring/soft shocks up front and Heavy Spring/Med shot if the back. Firmer than stock on the road but “0” sag when loaded and that includes getting crazy off-road.
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Tagging this thread for the future. I'll be adding weight to my 2020, so I might be wanting an option to offset it.

Spacers seem like a bit of a Rube Goldberg attempt at a fix to this issue. It aesthetically would look right, but functionally? Eh...
Yeah, I've got a 2020 TRDP - wanted some more height and tried Cornfed and got it leveled. Since have added 300# of gear (RTT, rear storage, gear, hitch multi bike rack, etc) and have really messed up the level aesthetic and drive. Now have some reverse rake, with about an inch taller in the front, when fully loaded.

I'm fairly green into overlanding and modding a vehicle and am searching for some direction. Would like to add enough space/lift to ultimately increases tire size too. But most importantly, want my drive quality back.
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I suggest getting rid of the spacers and new rear springs to handle the cargo weight.
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