Bilstein 5100's ?? - Toyota 4Runner Forum

Jason4runner2 · 01-12-2019, 11:09 AM

Any one set at .85 in front and rear? Any pictures? Just looking for a little more height and would like to keep stock rake for when I carry a heavy load in the back.Thanks

TEujunga · 01-12-2019, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason4runner2

Any one set at .85 in front and rear? Any pictures? Just looking for a little more height and would like to keep stock rake for when I carry a heavy load in the back.Thanks

With 913 posts, the following thread likely contains every possible permutation of Bilstein 5100 installations, with pictures. There are many other threads about the Bilsteins as well if you care to do a search.

Another Bilstein 5100 question

Note that rear 5100s alone will not provide any lift. You need to change springs or add spacers to get any lift in the rear.

Remember that the "Search" function is your friend.

Jason4runner2 · 01-12-2019, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TEujunga

With 913 posts, the following thread likely contains every possible permutation of Bilstein 5100 installations, with pictures. There are many other threads about the Bilsteins as well if you care to do a search.

Another Bilstein 5100 question

Note that rear 5100s alone will not provide any lift. You need to change springs or add spacers to get any lift in the rear.

Remember that the "Search" function is your friend.

Thanks. I did find the post and its very helpful. Thinking of keeping the rear stock and fronts at .85. Just hope this set up will still give me enough rake in the front without doing anything to the rear.

YellowSnow · 01-12-2019, 12:51 PM

Can you adjust the rears?

str8flexed · 01-12-2019, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason4runner2

Any one set at .85 in front and rear? Any pictures? Just looking for a little more height and would like to keep stock rake for when I carry a heavy load in the back.Thanks

Lots of pictures here.

If you want a small level, putting only Bilstein 5100’s up front and setting the height at 0.85” will raise it a little.

That said, I am about to do:
Bilstein front and back (front set at 0)
Dobinsons coils front and back

That way I can lift both the front and back without using spacers, for a better ride.

dajosh · 01-12-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by YellowSnow

Can you adjust the rears?

Nope. Have to change the springs or add spacers. I’d recommend springs.

Jason4runner2 · 01-12-2019, 06:43 PM

So if I set the fronts at .85 and leave the rear stock, I should still have some forward rake correct? If i have some gear and 2 people in the back I shouldn't have any reverse rake? That's my only concern.

spoonmectr · 01-12-2019, 07:03 PM

Thats what i did on my GX470. It still has a slight bit of rake unloaded. But when the family is loaded up it is level.

1000MPH · 01-12-2019, 10:21 PM

Looks like you need to continue reading the other threads. An option mentioned in those threads is the OME 10 mm trim spacers if you’re concerned about losing your rake at .85.

redneckj · 01-13-2019, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by str8flexed

Lots of pictures here.

If you want a small level, putting only Bilstein 5100’s up front and setting the height at 0.85” will raise it a little.

That said, I am about to do:
Bilstein front and back (front set at 0)
Dobinsons coils front and back

That way I can lift both the front and back without using spacers, for a better ride.

Which Dobinsons coils are you going to run? Amount of lift front and rear? Is there any reason that you would not run their struts and shocks ?

Thanks in advance.

obxbird · 01-13-2019, 12:58 AM

Sooo...if I want to get rid of the typical Toyota D/S lean, and I plan on installing the 5100's set at 1.75" and utilizing a 1" CF rear spacer, then what size spacer should I add to the front D/S to decrease this look? Some threads I have seen show 1/4" and some say other sizes. What's the best idea...or is it even worth it?

YellowSnow · 01-13-2019, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by obxbird

Sooo...if I want to get rid of the typical Toyota D/S lean, and I plan on installing the 5100's set at 1.75" and utilizing a 1" CF rear spacer, then what size spacer should I add to the front D/S to decrease this look? Some threads I have seen show 1/4" and some say other sizes. What's the best idea...or is it even worth it?

There is no cure all be all...some people report driver side lean, some report passenger side lean, some report no lean at all. I installed everything, drove it around, and then added a spacer front driver side to level things out. You just have to re-evaluate after your lift is installed and go from there. Just order a front spacer and rear trim packer and have them on hand when you do your lift.

karmatp · 01-13-2019, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason4runner2

Any one set at .85 in front and rear? Any pictures? Just looking for a little more height and would like to keep stock rake for when I carry a heavy load in the back.Thanks

I did 5100’s to the front set at .85 and I have a level frame and decreased rake. The frame will sit level at .85 which overall gives you 1” front lift. If you go higher than .85 and don’t add a rear spacer, you will have reverse frame rake. People go off of fender height which I find ridiculous.

The best think about adding 5100’s to the front is you get rid of the nose dive while braking, best upgrade you can do to a stock t4r.

Harrisnc · 01-13-2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason4runner2

So if I set the fronts at .85 and leave the rear stock, I should still have some forward rake correct? If i have some gear and 2 people in the back I shouldn't have any reverse rake? That's my only concern.

Dobinsons has a spring (323) that’s basically stock height, may give you 1/4”, but it has a higher spring rate which will allow you to load more stuff with less sag.

4runnin4mylife · 01-13-2019, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason4runner2

Any one set at .85 in front and rear? Any pictures? Just looking for a little more height and would like to keep stock rake for when I carry a heavy load in the back.Thanks

You will be right where it sounds like you want to be by just moving to .85 on your Bilstein 5100's on the front. I ran that setup for a long time before I went full bore with my suspension. It just takes a little factory rake from your 4runner, but still leaves just enough for a few passengers and some gear. If you don't want a full lift and just want to take out a small bit of the factory rake, it will be the best setting for you without reverse rake under light to medium load.

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