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Old 01-13-2019, 06:37 PM #16
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I have absolutely loved the 1 up heavy duty double paired with the Kuat Pivot. The back of my 4runner is where we all hang and drink beers after riding. I always have camp chairs in the trunk, swing the rack out of the way and 2 of us sit on the rear bumper. I also did the cupholder mod (https://www.toyota-4runner.org/868556-post186.html)

The only con I have is it adds like 10 inches to how far the rack sits away from the truck which just doesn't look as good as just the 1up stored vertical with no bikes on.
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I got in on the pre-order as well. TBH it's an imperfect solution and it might not work for everybody. I think there are certain sacrifices you make with a hitch mounted tire carrier but it may outweigh the certain downsides associated with a full rear bumper replacement. With a full bumper replacement cost, weight, cutting/grinding can be a concern. You'll likely have to get heavy duty rear springs and perhaps regear as well depending on the rest of your setup. With a hitch mounted tire carrier you sacrifice departure angle and it sticks out a bit but the weight is negligible and should it not be your cup of tea it's entirely removable. Those that got in on the pre-order price probably won't lose out much on price if you decide to sell it down the road.

I'm willing to give it a try and it's quite possible it's a stop gap solution before I get a full rear bumper replacement but again that's gonna come with more of a cost, HD rear springs, and a regear. I still think it's a better option than putting a spare tire on your roof which throws off your center of gravity and I can only imagine lugging a spare tire/wheel weighing 70+ lbs on/off your roof. As well of all the hitch mounted spare tire carriers this one seems to most thought out and feature packed.
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Man, you guys are my people. Sounds like you are using your trucks really similarly and are needing the same things.

I already invested in heavy duty springs but I'm thinking they'll be beneficial with this setup or a bumper. It's a lot of weight hanging off the back no matter what it's attached to. Wheel, rack, 2 bikes, and Rotopax add up that far off the back.

But I was thinking the same thing about this being a stop-gap that might just fit the bill permanently.
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I was able to meet up with Luke from @rigdsupply (photo credit) this weekend in Death Valley and grab my UltraSwing. Certainly gave it a solid breaking in with 50+ miles of dirt & rock and another almost 1000 miles on the road. We did Lippincott Pass while I had a full size spare, bike rack, bike, and 20L fuel can on the UltraSwing, and I couldn't hurt it. The wedge system that tightens it in the receiver is stout. It feels like it's welded on. Happy
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I was able to meet up with Luke from @rigdsupply (photo credit) this weekend in Death Valley and grab my UltraSwing. Certainly gave it a solid breaking in with 50+ miles of dirt & rock and another almost 1000 miles on the road. We did Lippincott Pass while I had a full size spare, bike rack, bike, and 20L fuel can on the UltraSwing, and I couldn't hurt it. The wedge system that tightens it in the receiver is stout. It feels like it's welded on. Happy

how centered were you able to get your bike relative to the vehicle?
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how centered were you able to get your bike relative to the vehicle?
I would guess that it's maybe 6 inches from center (towards the driver side). I expected this would bother me, and I would figure out how to offset the rack, but it really didn't feel like a big deal once I got it on. It may be visibly offset when you look straight on from the back, but it's not like it sticks out way past the side mirror and the bike is going to get clipped. I'll almost certainly end up leaving it the way it is.
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I would guess that it's maybe 6 inches from center (towards the driver side). I expected this would bother me, and I would figure out how to offset the rack, but it really didn't feel like a big deal once I got it on. It may be visibly offset when you look straight on from the back, but it's not like it sticks out way past the side mirror and the bike is going to get clipped. I'll almost certainly end up leaving it the way it is.
Okay, good to know. In fact, my last two racks have actually made my bikes stick out to the passenger side a little which has only ever made me clip anything one time, so this might actually compensate for that a little. Thanks.
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I like this rack but dont like that it is not tow rated. I like that it has all the modifications available (or soon to come). But its also brand new and more costly. Ended up finding a wilco high clearance on ebay for a nice price, and like that it can tow, but dislike that the bike rack wont swing (although not a huge deal, just have to figure out a way so that the swing arm can still move with the rack in place).
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@Kenn Can you leave your original spare in place and use this? In case you wanted to have two along for the ride?

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The wedge sticks out 1.5cm (.59 inches) from tow. Measure your stock spare to the tow hitch for the answer. I have the Cooper STT Maxx 255/80/17 and I guarantee that I couldnt fit the spare under there with the tire carrier on.
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I was able to meet up with Luke from @rigdsupply (photo credit) this weekend in Death Valley and grab my UltraSwing. Certainly gave it a solid breaking in with 50+ miles of dirt & rock and another almost 1000 miles on the road. We did Lippincott Pass while I had a full size spare, bike rack, bike, and 20L fuel can on the UltraSwing, and I couldn't hurt it. The wedge system that tightens it in the receiver is stout. It feels like it's welded on. Happy
Hey, looks rad - how did you mount/carry the 20L of fuel? rotopax on the inside from the spare?
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Hey, looks rad - how did you mount/carry the 20L of fuel? rotopax on the inside from the spare?
I just ratchet strapped a scepter can to the frame of the tire carrier. It was pretty tight. Rotopax fits easily though, and the Rotopax attachments can bolt right on existing holes on the UltraSwing.
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Im waiting for someone to mount a GoPro to the rear of their rig and show us a video of these at high speed in the desert. Physics tells me that baby is gonna wobble all over the place. Id like to be proven wrong.
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Im waiting for someone to mount a GoPro to the rear of their rig and show us a video of these at high speed in the desert. Physics tells me that baby is gonna wobble all over the place. Id like to be proven wrong.
I did 50+ miles of a significant off road workout the first day I put it on (with plenty of weight on it) and the thing still felt like it was welded on at the end of the day. Couldn't say the same for my bike rack. It rattled almost to pieces. Not sure what your definition of high speed is, but I don't see how it would rattle around more at 50+mph on smooth sand than normal speed on very rough terrain.
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I did 50+ miles of a significant off road workout the first day I put it on (with plenty of weight on it) and the thing still felt like it was welded on at the end of the day. Couldn't say the same for my bike rack. It rattled almost to pieces. Not sure what your definition of high speed is, but I don't see how it would rattle around more at 50+mph on smooth sand than normal speed on very rough terrain.
Thanks for the feedback. I am hoping to see some video one of these days or spot one out in the desert. Sounds like its solid but having a visual aid would go a long way for them in sales. I also MTB so having something that I can load up my bike on is key.
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