It won't. I'd bet my 4runner on it. TNGAF will come to the tundra and lc200 at least one year before the 150 platform. The only test mule out there is a tundra. And it'll be a 2021 most likely. I'd expect 2023 model year.

He doesn't. He's literally the only person on this forum who keeps saying 2021, and the only source I've ever heard is that guy on youtube.

This refresh makes no sense to run for only a year.

But why does almost every other model need them and not the pro

I wish you could get the Redwood Interior with Army Green. Green/Black isn't my favorite color combination.

Maybe... Just maybe, Toyota will give us more customizability this year. Probably not, but maybe.

Side note, is the 4Runner even on display at the auto show? Because if it's not, we have some hope for something more!

What a let down

As we all counted down the days till the reveal to see a 6th gen. Hopefully these little tweaks don'tjust extent 5th gens for another 5 years. I mean there beautiful and all but they are extremely outdated and we've had 5th gens for a hot minute already

AM radio... Amplitude Modulation... Maybe it's another Ohio or rural mid-west thing...

700 WLW for sports and laughs (with the Reds and Bengals it's sometimes one in the same), 610 WTVN or WHIO for afternoon Rush. Occasionally if I'm working over in Indiana I'll tune to 1190 WOWO.

Rest of the time stream from the phone via Tidal. Not a fan of FM radio, too much rap, pop, or angry rock. Much rather listen to Sonny Rollins.

I know I was born in the wrong decade.

Toyota Teases a Diesel Option For 4Runner [Update: Not Quite]

Looks like they probably photoshopped it out of the LC 150 and didn't think that anyone would catch the diesel-like RPM range.

"This refresh makes no sense to run for only a year." Well, last years refresh of sunroof, new rack, better sound system, etc. only ran for one year.

Honestly they don't change that much from one gen to the next when you think about it... biggest obvious changes are body, some interior of course but rest like running grea, motor/tranny are more or less the same with minor tweeks.

I don't expect ground breaking changes with the 6th gen and gong on 10yrs with the 5th.... I will make a gentleman's bet the 6th will be a 2021 model year (they knew the green was long awaited and saved it for last... did blue two years in a row).

TBH, calling this a "refresh" is reaching. It's really just a feature update. All of the exterior sheetmetal is the exact same, as is the powertrain and 99% of the interior.

Same for 2018 - the things they added were already standard on the Limited, outside of the rack and snorkel, which are just a bolt-on accessories.

Well, technically those changes are still running. The 2020 still has the sunroof, the rack and the sound system(speakers). Everything for the 2020 is building on top of the 2019 changes. From a business stand point, it makes perfect sense to roll out incremental updates year after year as long as you are not totally replacing something you did one or two years before. It's just easier to manage the projects and has less risks. The only reason to make big bundle changes is if you can save time or money on validation and testing. Stuff like racks and sunroofs have no reason to be paired with head units, TSS-P and push start. There might be a reason to do TSS-P and a new head unit at the same time if they intend to use it to display TSS-P related information.

And I'd take that bet. These 4Runner updates wouldn't make sense if they are about to replace it, especially if they're not taking the opportunity to call it a final edition and charge more.

People want push button start because it's trendy.

i thought that at first and now i dont miss having a key or having to use a fob to unlock my car at all.

One more thing to go wrong, and have you seen prices on replacement fobs? I was quoted $550 to replace one my wife locked inside her Mercedes, (along with the spare.. doh). Ordered a blade key for $60 to unlock (AAA would butcher the door panels to pry it open) - but one can't use it to actually drive.

At least with normal key I can use a simple mechanical copy in a pinch.

I think auto open function when one is nearby is not safe.

Teslas don't have a fob, or a button. They recognize your phone (or a RFID card) then you just put it in gear and go. It's weird not having a starting procedure.

WTF the refresh for 2020 is a 7 inch screen with Android and a green color. That must be an April Fool's joke. Might as well wait for the 7th gen ... And drink away the pain.