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Old 07-18-2019, 09:46 AM #601
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Lies! I can't help but stare at it's reflection when passing a large glass building or a very reflective tanker. She is a sexy truck.
Good point, I do that too. I also love flexing the back window down when another SUV or Jeep is behind me. Feels good.
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I'm halfway there with you on this statement. The only thing making me want to trade in my 16 SR5 was the following:

- upgraded instrument cluster with more info
- Carplay head unit
- Upgraded safety features
- Updated Transmission (the 4.0 V6 is fine)

Looking at what I saw in that video from TFL today, the new cluster center screen looks great, but the rest of it looks cheap compared to the current 14-19 cluster IMHO.

On the safety features, I want the full safety suite available to every current Toyota besides the 4Runner, which is the 2.0 with BSM, etc. The GX460 and the 4Runner share so much, so I don't get why the 20' 4Runner can't have BSM, RCTA, etc. The GX has had that since 2014.

The only attractive thing was the new head unit features, and frankly I'll just wait to pick one of those up second hand for much less than it will cost me to trade up/in.

I get Toyota's philosophy is incremental improvement and tried and true technology, but they need to stop "phoning it in" and "show up to the table" on their BOF vehicles. We will see if that happens on the TNGA-BOF updates further down the line.
The basic safety sense is pretty worthless other than cruise control radar. It lacks the useful features of modern safety systems like lane keep and collision avoidance. Its probably not what you're thinking it is. No steering input means all it can do is apply brakes or make noise.
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Good point, I do that too. I also love flexing the back window down when another SUV or Jeep is behind me. Feels good.
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Totally agree here. If the 2020 had an 8 or 10 speed transmission, I'd seriously consider it. With a v8 and 8at I'd be putting in an order. The update is not anywhere close to being worth upgrading from my 15.
Honestly I wish they would offer the current 4.0L V6 with the 6 or 8 sp AT and 4.10 or 4.30 gears.
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Good point, I do that too. I also love flexing the back window down when another SUV or Jeep is behind me. Feels good.
Didn't know flexing the window was thing...
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Can't wait for all these same people crying for electronic upgrades to be whining about these same things failing in a few years and being pissed at Toyota because their supposedly bulletproof 4runner has electrical issues.
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Can't wait for all these same people crying for electronic upgrades to be whining about these same things failing in a few years and being pissed at Toyota because their supposedly bulletproof 4runner has electrical issues.
I'm glad you're happy with what you have, but the fact that you wish failure upon those who feel differently about your fear for tech upgrades in this vehicle is juvenile.

You do realize that the 5th gen has always been filled with the brim with computers and electronics right?

Is it only whining when people want progress in a different direction than you want? Because to me it sounds like you're whining about people who you accuse of whining.

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Can't wait for all these same people crying for electronic upgrades to be whining about these same things failing in a few years and being pissed at Toyota because their supposedly bulletproof 4runner has electrical issues.

You should sell your truck and buy a Jeep. Wtf is wrong with some people who share same passion in here
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I'm glad you're happy with what you have, but the fact that you wish failure upon those who feel differently about your fear for tech upgrades in this vehicle is juvenile.

You do realize that the 5th gen has always been filled with the brim with computers and electronics right?

Is it only whining when people want progress in a different direction than you want? Because to me it sounds like you're whining about people who you accuse of whining.
You don't want progress, you want a highlander. It's a great car for fancy lads like yourself.
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You should sell your truck and buy a Jeep. Wtf is wrong with some people who share same passion in here
I prefer that my vehicles don't drive like a donkey or suffer from spontaneous combustion.
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You don't want progress, you want a highlander. It's a great car for fancy lads like yourself.
Great to know that you're so much better than me and everyone else who has shared similar sentiments in this thread that you've graciously recommended us a Highlander. Look at me everyone, I'm apparently a fancy lad because I believe that we can move forward without compromise. All hail Pathfinder!

If I wanted a unibody luxury vehicle a Toyota would probably be the last one I'd pick. There are way better options out there than a Highlander. However, the 4Runner is unparalleled in the BOF SUV segment.

There's always a horse and buggy or maybe your own two feet waiting for you if you're so against the future. I hear those don't have any electronics, which means they have to be more reliable, right? Why post here if you're just gonna call everyone out for being excited for new things, and for not agreeing with you? You can choose to believe what you want, and there are 5 generations of 4Runners for you to choose from, as has been stated earlier.

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Great to know that you're so much better than me and everyone else who has shared similar sentiments in this thread. Look at me everyone, I'm apparently a fancy lad because I believe that we can move forward without compromise. All hail Pathfinder!

If I wanted a unibody luxury vehicle a Toyota would probably be the last one I'd pick. There are way better options out there than a Highlander. However, the 4Runner is unparalleled in the BOF SUV segment.

There's always a horse and buggy or maybe your own two feet waiting for you if you're so against the future. I hear those don't have any electronics, which means they have to be more reliable, right? Why post here if you're just gonna call everyone out for being excited for new things, and for not agreeing with you?
It's called projecting. Just ignore him.
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Obviously I haven't tested it with a 2020, but I'm going to say 99% for sure that the accessory meter won't work. I've had a few people ask me that. Completely new instrument cluster therefore new software and probably new wiring.

The current cluster (14-19) is made by Yazaki, whereas the new style clusters found in the Tacoma, Tundra, and 20' 4Runner I'm pretty sure are made in house by Denso.
No limited models for that display yet?
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Well I'm glad we can at least all agree on something.
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Holy moly, after rewatching the video I just realized, TFL emphasized they couldn't talk about driving impressions and it just occurred to me that our dreams may finally come true: A TRD PRO with KDSS? Could it be? Speculation of course, but why else would they suppress the driving impressions on a decade old, nearly unchanged vehicle?

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