View Poll Results: Nice Device or Crack Pipe?
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It will be fine, I am an engineer on the internet.
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It will be fine, I am an engineer on the internet.
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02-08-2019, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KingTaco
I am in similar FB territory. FWIW it is made out of "aircraft grade" aluminum. Says it is designed to support a 400 pounder. I assume that incorporates the force a 400 pounder can apply. I just added a link in my original post.
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That's not an actual grade of aluminum, it's a marketing buzzword
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02-08-2019, 12:55 PM
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That's not an actual grade of aluminum, it's a marketing buzzword
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That's why I put it in quotation marks. Thought it was funny.
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02-08-2019, 01:00 PM
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I'd be concerned about possibly misaligning the door latch.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine the latch is just bolted to the sheet metal. Wouldn't that be pretty easy to flex out of place a bit? Surely they weren't engineered to take flex like this would put on it.
Also, what happened to using the tires like a normal person?
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The tire may still be fine. I haven't mounted the tent yet, so I just don't have a feel for how much more (if any) reach I will need. It will obviously be higher, so I assumed I would want more.
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02-08-2019, 01:21 PM
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I bought one off of Amazon a few months ago that had a hinge to fold flat and only came with a sticky backed tape to protect the body from damage of the step. I returned it because it was advertised to come with a more robust rubber boot, so I never got to try it. In that situation the hinge would've been the obvious weak point. Here it looks like it eliminates that problem (of course at the cost of portability) - I might consider trying one out (I'm 240 for reference). If it's one solid piece of aluminum, I think it should be able to hold (I'm not an engineer, I only hire them lol). The door latches are bolted into much more than sheet metal - if I understand correctly, they're required to hold a door in place for up to 4,500N (~1,000lb of force). Of course that's lateral force versus vertical force, but still. Wife was actually the one who brought it up since she's clocking in at 5'3 and cant reach the rack all that easily.
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02-08-2019, 02:17 PM
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My math is shaky at best, but the step is twice as long as the arm holding it. That means it doubles the load force on the other side of the fulcrum. That means if I put my fat boy 270 pounds of force on the step, the top of that arm is holding back 540 pounds. That's assuming dead weight. Stepping down on it would create more force. I am sure someone will correct me. But that shitty piece of plastic does not look like it's going to support that.
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You nailed it for the worst case scenario. The dynamic loading of stepping up onto it would cause more lateral and vertical force on the latch than I would be comfortable with.
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02-08-2019, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rihavens
My math is shaky at best, but the step is twice as long as the arm holding it. That means it doubles the load force on the other side of the fulcrum. That means if I put my fat boy 270 pounds of force on the step, the top of that arm is holding back 540 pounds. That's assuming dead weight. Stepping down on it would create more force. I am sure someone will correct me. But that shitty piece of plastic does not look like it's going to support that.
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Lose some weight?
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02-08-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mcarey86
I'd be concerned about possibly misaligning the door latch.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine the latch is just bolted to the sheet metal. Wouldn't that be pretty easy to flex out of place a bit? Surely they weren't engineered to take flex like this would put on it.
Also, what happened to using the tires like a normal person?
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That was my thought, more worried about damage to the latch than anything else. Don't want the door to open unexpectedly, especially in an accident.
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02-08-2019, 02:43 PM
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I bought one of these on Amazon today, before I saw this topic. I'm a larger guy at 250lbs, so I'll be interested to see how it holds me.
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02-08-2019, 03:26 PM
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i have a similar one, comes with a seat belt cutting tool and glass breaking tool at the end. i'm 200lbs and use it to tie up surfboards on top of the hard shell tent.... love it. works way better then stepping onto the front door arm rest or window switch panel with sandy feet. Hope it helps.
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02-08-2019, 04:06 PM
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I bought a 300# rated 2' high fiberglass step ladder. I can walk it around the truck as needed to get at everywhere on the roof rack, and it is small enough folded to fit in the back or on the rack with gear. I do have one of those aluminum door jamb steps and it seems to hold my weight fine, but the small footprint is hard on my arthritic feet. The ladder went on 3 camping trips last year and works like a champ.
https://www.amazon.com/Louisville-FS...s%2C195&sr=8-5
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02-08-2019, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 1jzgte
the only damage i can predict is when you forget to remove it while your instincts tell you small the door shut... door plastic and paint damage
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Now THAT is a real concern. That's going to happen eventually for sure!!
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Originally Posted by mcarey86
I'd be concerned about possibly misaligning the door latch.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine the latch is just bolted to the sheet metal. Wouldn't that be pretty easy to flex out of place a bit? Surely they weren't engineered to take flex like this would put on it.
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Naw, that latch striker is beastly strong. Designed to keep the door shut in the worst collisions. You'd have a hard time bending it with a sledge hammer.
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Originally Posted by Furagwa
When I looked at how high my striker was from the ground it didn't look like it would be too easy to even get up onto the step. And then it would put me up too high
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Well, presumably you'd step up on the door threshold on your way up to it.
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02-08-2019, 04:44 PM
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I have one and use it often. It works as advertised. MOKI door steps are pricey but work great for those looking for roof top access. Amazon has cheaper brands from China. I can't say they are good or bad just cheaper.
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02-08-2019, 04:45 PM
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02-08-2019, 10:46 PM
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02-08-2019, 11:50 PM
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Bought the Moki step to help reach mount latches and stuff at the front of my skybox, works really well. I just use 1 foot and don’t stand out on the end of it, I don’t see any flexing or bending. Solid piece of metal with a thick rubber boot at the bottom.
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