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Old 02-12-2019, 12:20 PM #16
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I'd give my left arm to be able to integrate the safety features into my '19. Only thing I miss are those (realistically) convenience features.
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I'd give my left arm to be able to integrate the safety features into my '19. Only thing I miss are those (realistically) convenience features.
I can do it for just a left hand. PM me for the shipping address if serious.
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Here are some pics from the show. There is a mistake on the card where it says tuned leaf springs in the rear.
So is this going to be real leather or softtex?
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So is this going to be real leather or softtex?
It specified real leather front seats, but no other details.
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I'd give my left arm to be able to integrate the safety features into my '19. Only thing I miss are those (realistically) convenience features.
Don't let the luddites hear you, they might hunt you down for wanting any convenience in these trucks! Seems like half this forum would rather ride a horse and buggy than have any tech...
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Don't let the luddites hear you, they might hunt you down for wanting any convenience in these trucks! Seems like half this forum would rather ride a horse and buggy than have any tech...


Yeah, looks like I'll be hanging on to my 4th Gen for a little longer then. Having a mk7 Golf R really makes me realize how dated the 4Runner is getting, so I'll be happy to see the 6th Gen updates. Simple things like a decent infotainment system would be nice, but hopefully they don't go too far with it and keep it functional still.

For those of us who off-road, having the radar controlled cruise control might be a bad idea since alignments become more expensive with those.
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Don't let the luddites hear you, they might hunt you down for wanting any convenience in these trucks! Seems like half this forum would rather ride a horse and buggy than have any tech...
Well there is some truth in this statement. I buy vehicles for off road for the motor and drivetrain: period! Everything else is just fluff that can and will fail. This is also why I buy Toyota’s, especially those made in Japan. Reliability, durability and ruggedness are all I care about. That said I wish they offered the 4Runner with a solid front axle as well and I really don’t care for anti-lock brakes either! I really feel the main reason people buy them is because they truly are a throwback of sorts!
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The question we should be asking is why change the front seats from softex to real leather?

Think about it, what other T4R trim level has real leather? That would be the limited.

Why would they add the real leather? Perhaps Heated and Cooled seats?

If there is a 2020 MGM Pro offered with push button start, heated and cooled seats, and a few other bells and whistles (Like new tranny with 6spd or 8spd) my SR5 is getting traded in.

Now the next question is why list no transmission specs on the vehicle info stand at the show?
Yep, all valid questions. I talked to the "product specialist" for a while until my wife said stop, she looks like shes about to cry as I was correcting most things she was saying lol.
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I can do it for just a left hand. PM me for the shipping address if serious.
You want a toe? Hell, I can get you a toe. I can get you a toe by 3:00 this afternoon...
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The question we should be asking is why change the front seats from softex to real leather?



Think about it, what other T4R trim level has real leather? That would be the limited.



Why would they add the real leather? Perhaps Heated and Cooled seats?



If there is a 2020 MGM Pro offered with push button start, heated and cooled seats, and a few other bells and whistles (Like new tranny with 6spd or 8spd) my SR5 is getting traded in.



Now the next question is why list no transmission specs on the vehicle info stand at the show?


The only problem with real leather is that it isn’t gonna hold up as well as the softex. The softex is much more durable for an off road rig that’s gonna see dirt and sand on the seats. We take our 4Runner out on the beach a lot in the summer and end up with a lot of sand inside the vehicle. With the softex, it’s just a quick vacuum with the shop vac and a wipe down with a damp cloth and they are as good as new. With the perforated leather, those holes are gonna full up with sand really quickly.


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If there is a 2020 MGM Pro offered with push button start, heated and cooled seats, and a few other bells and whistles (Like new tranny with 6spd or 8spd) my SR5 is getting traded in.
If that happens, I would suspect no more cool mods coming from you for the rest of us with MY2019 and below?
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Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I think it's interesting that there is no transmission mentioned... Toyota usually groups that information together when they want to release it, even if it's carryover.

A 6spd auto would have me in line with money in my hand, regardless of CarPlay TSS-P or anything else. The transmission is the only thing I don't love about the 4R.
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The question we should be asking is why change the front seats from softex to real leather?

Think about it, what other T4R trim level has real leather? That would be the limited.

Why would they add the real leather? Perhaps Heated and Cooled seats?

If there is a 2020 MGM Pro offered with push button start, heated and cooled seats, and a few other bells and whistles (Like new tranny with 6spd or 8spd) my SR5 is getting traded in.

Now the next question is why list no transmission specs on the vehicle info stand at the show?
Good points. The only reason I can see the front seats being leather is because they'd be perforated for ventilation.

Lack of transmission info definitely makes me think they bumped it up to a 6pd (Prados with the 4.0 are mated to a 6spd since 2015)

Also, love to see it has a TRD PRO dual exhaust. Maybe they did massage the power plant a bit.
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Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but I think it's interesting that there is no transmission mentioned... Toyota usually groups that information together when they want to release it, even if it's carryover.

A 6spd auto would have me in line with money in my hand, regardless of CarPlay TSS-P or anything else. The transmission is the only thing I don't love about the 4R.
Stop showing up around here and giving me false hope Gecko!
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