10-29-2019, 09:04 PM
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Building off this thread, has anyone on here swapped the front springs with a slightly stiffer 14in spring on the TRD pro? I'm adding a Slimline Bumper and Winch and I'm trying to decide between 14"x600lb (like the 6112 springs) or going up to the 14"x650lb.
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11-25-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SWVA 4Runner
Building off this thread, has anyone on here swapped the front springs with a slightly stiffer 14in spring on the TRD pro? I'm adding a Slimline Bumper and Winch and I'm trying to decide between 14"x600lb (like the 6112 springs) or going up to the 14"x650lb.
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I'm wondering the same thing. Will the King 14" x 650lb spring work with the stock TRD Pro suspension? I have a C4 low pro bumper and hoping to add a winch later on.
KING 14" COIL SPRING PAIRS FOR 2.5" COILOVERS
Additionally, what's the best spring for the rear? I've seen people suggesting T13's or the Dobinson 599's for about 1.5" of lift. I have a full length Gobi rack (~75lbs) and carry a bike rack on the hitch receiver most of the time (~100lbs). I'm hoping to maintain the factory rake if possible.
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11-26-2019, 04:14 PM
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So after reading all this am I understanding correctly that none of this will work on a 19 4R TRD PRO with the OEM Fox shocks? I know they are still early in the game and I would love to do something like this with keeping the OEM Fox shocks and getting a mild lift from swapping out the coils front and rear.. Thanks in advance...
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06-02-2020, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by speedyglx
Added new tires too.
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So just to confirm, you ran the new 14" front spring on TRD stock shocks, and did nothing to the rear? Just wanting to confirm if you put a longer rear shock in too. Thanks! Looks great
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07-02-2020, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by but_moves
So just to confirm, you ran the new 14" front spring on TRD stock shocks, and did nothing to the rear? Just wanting to confirm if you put a longer rear shock in too. Thanks! Looks great
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He used longer coils in the rear, shocks stayed the same.
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07-03-2020, 11:03 PM
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Looking good, which Bilstein coils did you go with?
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Looks good!
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10-08-2020, 03:45 PM
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So I FINALLY pulled the trigger on this after having the 6112’s for over a year. I went with Icon 52700’s in the rear which give about 1.75” of actual lift. My measurements were rushed but it looks like I got 2.5” to the fender in the front and 2.25” to the fender in the rear when combined with 285’s. It’s been about a week and I love it. Far less nose dive and lean when cornering and it just looks better. My co-worker, who is an Tacoma overlander, said it now looks like someone told it to “grow a pair” and it did... in the pic, top is after and bottoms is stock.
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10-09-2020, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DeserT4R
So I FINALLY pulled the trigger on this after having the 6112’s for over a year. I went with Icon 52700’s in the rear which give about 1.75” of actual lift. My measurements were rushed but it looks like I got 2.5” to the fender in the front and 2.25” to the fender in the rear when combined with 285’s. It’s been about a week and I love it. Far less nose dive and lean when cornering and it just looks better. My co-worker, who is an Tacoma overlander, said it now looks like someone told it to “grow a pair” and it did... in the pic, top is after and bottoms is stock.
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Looks great. Have you gotten an alignment yet? Just curious if you'll require UCAs for caster. Any rubbing? I have 14" 650lb springs and T13s waiting to be installed on my '18 Pro.
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10-15-2020, 05:30 PM
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Alignment done right away on stock UCA’s. Oh rub on full lock turning left when backing up.
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02-23-2021, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bayou_Pro
Yes I bought them off of a member that upgraded to 650#. There was another set for sale in the classified the other day. There is also a member selling a set of 14"X3" 600# TRD spring too. They are from an FJ ultimate trail kit. I would have gotten those if I would have seen them first, for the simple fact that they are red.
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Funny you mention the coils being red, since I got my 6112 coils for nothing way back when, I had them powdercoated in red HAHAHAHA
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I just look at them and say: you have not the absolute slightest idea what you are talking about. This is 4Runner.
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02-23-2021, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by aelarson
I was seriously considering this 6112 coil as a lift option, but I remembered that Dobinsons had canceled their project for a 600lb 14x3 coil on the stock TRD Pro strut.
I wanted to do some more research, because the last thing I want to do is destroy a perfectly good shock for no reason. After digging through the Dobinsons thread, I found out why they canceled the project. All quotes are from Dobinsons Mike, a well known suspension guru here on the forums.
Post #1071: "Just because we can make a taller and stronger coil for these struts doesn't mean we should, so we have to test the product, and also watch the market and see the demand. The 1" lifted coil is a very minor upgrade, but the 2" doesn't leave a lot of down travel in the struts, and historically, struts left riding with minimal down travel end up topping out repeatedly until the top seal blows."
Post #1140: "They're not even recommending any coil [Bilstien] other than stock on their struts. Look here: Broken Bilstein 5100 FrontS I know they're 5100's and not Pro/6112 Struts, but still."
Post #1244:"We didn't get that far to check the down travel. I don't think the struts are strong enough to handle the extra lift."
There were a couple more quotes that I lost in the frenzy of open tabs. Whoops!
I don't think Dobinsons spent a ton of time doing in field testing (a few months on a couple vehicles according to the thread) with the 14x3 HD coil, but they are suspension experts, so I take their word. However, nothing beats testing the real deal. I'd love to hear how everyone's shocks are doing after several thousand miles of testing.
At the moment, I think I am going to hold off on the 6112 14x3 coils due to the comments made by Dobinsons, but I would love to be proven wrong by folks actually running this setup!
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So there are a lot more posts from people doing more research on this and ultimately deciding the 14" coils would be fine on the TRD Pro coilovers which I agreed with from the beginning. I did this swap back in the late summer/early fall of 2018 I wanted to give an update on how my suspension is doing after running this setup for nearly 50,000 miles.
Frankly, I've loved every damn mile of it. I've taken my 4runner all over: Moab, Sedona, Anza Borrego, Joshua Tree, Coyote Flat, Mojave Rd, etc. and have put this suspension through its paces. It has impressed me over and over again with every obstacle and terrain I've thrown at it. Coils have not sagged at all after many long loaded down trips (and more than a couple bump stop hits lol) and shocks are still doing just fine. Still as responsive as the day I had them installed. And I have not found that the down travel was limited at all by this swap. Only limiter is the IFS as we all know haha. And 600# is not too stiff for a DD if you have a little weight such as sliders, skids, roof rack.
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I just look at them and say: you have not the absolute slightest idea what you are talking about. This is 4Runner.
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02-28-2021, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by speedyglx
Added new tires too.
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Sorry if this has been answered, but on a non TRD we should be able to get this same stance with 6112's up front and 5100's in the rear with the T13 springs correct?
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03-06-2021, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideGTI
Sorry if this has been answered, but on a non TRD we should be able to get this same stance with 6112's up front and 5100's in the rear with the T13 springs correct?
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Are you talking full 6112’s (struts and coils)? If so, yes. Putting longer coils on sr5 stock struts wouldn’t give you this or be advised.
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03-06-2021, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DeserT4R
Are you talking full 6112’s (struts and coils)? If so, yes. Putting longer coils on sr5 stock struts wouldn’t give you this or be advised.
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@ DarkSideGTI
.....what he said. Yes you can use normal 6112 coilovers, 5100, and T13 to get this stance.
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I just look at them and say: you have not the absolute slightest idea what you are talking about. This is 4Runner.
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'15 Trail Premium, GOBI Stealth, CVT Summit Awning, ARB Safari Snorkel, TRD Pro susp. w/Bilstein 6112 coils & 1" spacer (front) & OME 895 (rear), 285/70/17 BFG KO2, Spidertrax wheel spacers, TRD Pro package (wheels, grill, valences, & skid), full RCI aluminum skids, C4 Fab diff skid, Toytec bump stop extensions, plenty of lights, patches, stickers, and other miscellaneous mods (backup & front camera, accessory meter display, rear window/hatch, bumper cup holders, Wit's End fire extinguisher mount, Ellis Precision TRD shift lever)
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03-06-2021, 01:53 PM
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Thanks guys. I just ordered 6112 coil overs, 5160 rears and some OME springs.
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