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Old 02-19-2019, 02:14 AM #1
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led map light disaster

Hello I'm new to the forum and I'm looking for some insight on a led map light issue I'm having. I have a 2018 trd off road premium 4 runner . i replaced the map light and dome light with sylvania led bulbs . while doing the map lights i apparently accidentally bent the reflector plate behind it upwards and its hitting the chip board behind it causing the passenger side map light to flicker all the interior lights a few times before it goes solid. i took it to the dealership and they tried to tell me i have to replace the whole unit and they want to charge me 1800$!!! please if anyone has any info on this or if you ever had this problem give me some kind of helpful info so i don't spend 2k on fixing a small problem my brand new 4runner :rebuke: i can't imagine they would have to replace that whole thing. thank you
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Canít you just bend it back? The flicker might actually be the LEDs. Depending on how they are made, some do not like the gradual on/off. Although, this usually isnít a problem with DC setups but you never know. I would suggest you start by putting the old bulbs in and seeing if he problem is still there.
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Take the reflector out and see if it still flickers. then you will know for sure if that is the issue. If you can't bend it back into shape, maybe some silicon or electrical tape over the offending area will insulate from the board.
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Canít you just bend it back? The flicker might actually be the LEDs. Depending on how they are made, some do not like the gradual on/off. Although, this usually isnít a problem with DC setups but you never know. I would suggest you start by putting the old bulbs in and seeing if he problem is still there.
Yes I tried putting stock bulbs in and it still does it
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Take the reflector out and see if it still flickers. then you will know for sure if that is the issue. If you can't bend it back into shape, maybe some silicon or electrical tape over the offending area will insulate from the board.
Thatís reflector is so flimsy Iím afraid if I get it out it will never go back in.. I tried bending it back down too and I thought I did a good job because itís really hard to tell
Where itís even bent . Thatís why im thinking thatís just what the dealership is saying it is but maybe itís something else
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$1800 for an overhead console?
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I'd do a little more investigation--the lamp assembly total is less than $200. He's quoting a total overhead console replacement. Does it still flicker if you take that bulb out completely (using just the other side?) and try it? I'm skeptical of what the dealer is telling you. Cheaper LEDs tend to flicker in our sockets (I've proven that on mine). If you can't bend the reflector back, then I'd probably find (search the forum) instructions to pull the overhead console, and bend the reflector away from the board or replace that particular unit. It will be easier on a bench rather than overhead.
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ask someone who replaced their lights with Arclight led's. you need to remove that plate (I did but have no idea where I put it).

or try a junk yard, heck of a lot cheaper than 1800!
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[QUOTE=sntryplt;3234886]I'd do a little more investigation--the lamp assembly total is less than $200. He's quoting a total overhead console replacement. Does it still flicker if you take that bulb out completely (using just the other side?) and try it? I'm skeptical of what the dealer is telling you. Cheaper LEDs tend to flicker in our sockets (I've proven that on mine). If you can't bend the reflector back, then I'd probably find (search the forum) instructions to pull the overhead console, and bend the reflector away from the board or replace that particular unit. It will be easier on a bench rather than overhead

I used sylania leds ...Iím not sure if they fall under the cheaper category or not but yeah Iíve been searching everywhere trying to find the reflector part sold separately and came up with nothing . I did find a thread on taking the whole console down and that may be the route Iíll go to further investigate . And for the question of the flickering ... it only flickers when the button is pushed
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ask someone who replaced their lights with Arclight led's. you need to remove that plate (I did but have no idea where I put it).

or try a junk yard, heck of a lot cheaper than 1800!
Maybe I should just look into arc light leds Was it hard to remove ?
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You are not going to find the reflector plate by itself as it only comes with the console. Your only chance of that would be a junk yard console or a member that has removed thiers.

Is your 4runner still under warranty? If so put all of the factory bulbs back in and take it to another dealer. Might be worth a shot. Good luck.


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Maybe I should just look into arc light leds Was it hard to remove ?
10 minutes, or less.
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You are not going to find the reflector plate by itself as it only comes with the console. Your only chance of that would be a junk yard console or a member that has removed thiers.

Is your 4runner still under warranty? If so put all of the factory bulbs back in and take it to another dealer. Might be worth a shot. Good luck.


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I screwed that up already lol I changed all dome lights and map but left the puddle lights led and they saw it
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I screwed that up already lol I changed all dome lights and map but left the puddle lights led and they saw it

Well damn. Did that record that on your invoice? If so it'll go into TIS where other dealers can see it. led map light disaster


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Can you remove the lenses and give the map light console a good whiff? If it smells like burnt electronics then that's the reason why toyota wants you to replace the console.

You can also remove the map light console to inspect the board. PM me your email and I'll send you my guide that will walk you through the removal.
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