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Old 11-16-2019, 11:00 PM #1
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Anybody need a reason to buy a 4R?

Here it is.
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But muh infotainment systems and lane departure warnings.
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Yeah, I was contemplating getting a new F150 at one point before I got the t4r. Good thing I didn't there is a recall for the motors suddenly stopping while driving.
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A fishing buddy liked how my 4Runner handled the beach...

...so he bought American, a Colorado. So far so good last I heard.


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Chevrolet Camaro
Jeep Wrangler
Alfa Romeo Giulia
Volkswagen Atlas
Volkswagen Tiguan
Acura MDX
Tesla Model X
Chrysler Pacifica
Chevrolet Traverse"
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Yeah, I was contemplating getting a new F150 at one point before I got the t4r. Good thing I didn't there is a recall for the motors suddenly stopping while driving.


I sold a 2016 ecoboost f150 for my 19 4Runner because of the issues I had. Namely ford has issues with plastic oil pans. They can’t stop them from leaking. Pain in the butt.


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Chevrolet Colorado
Chevrolet Camaro
Jeep Wrangler
Alfa Romeo Giulia
Volkswagen Atlas
Volkswagen Tiguan
Acura MDX
Tesla Model X
Chrysler Pacifica
Chevrolet Traverse"

Where did you get that list? I need to show it to my wife. She's set on a Tiguan and I'm trying to talk her out of it.
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Some of us might need a reason to STOP buying stuff for the 4Runner..
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My 4Runner is my 5th Toyota since 1974. Have yet to have any issues that weren’t self inflicted by me. Reliability has always been my #1 concern and all my Toyota’s have easily made that a non issue.
I like the looks of many other makes and models but with an iffy reliability factor they are not an option.
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I sold a 2016 ecoboost f150 for my 19 4Runner because of the issues I had. Namely ford has issues with plastic oil pans. They can’t stop them from leaking. Pain in the butt.


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PLASTIC oil pans?! I was not aware they were doing that. I love my 4Runner because of it's rugged simplicity. I have a Chrysler Pacifica with the DVD screens, full moonroof, heated/ventilated power seats front and back, and the kitchen sink. It's really a wonderfully designed vehicle with world class ergonomics and usefulness, but it has been back about 8-10 times for lengthy warranty repairs in less than 40k miles. I am keeping the 4Runner for the occasional trip to the woods with the kids, but mostly to have a rugged and capable vehicle on reserve if I ever need it.
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PLASTIC oil pans?! I was not aware they were doing that. I love my 4Runner because of it's rugged simplicity. I have a Chrysler Pacifica with the DVD screens, full moonroof, heated/ventilated power seats front and back, and the kitchen sink. It's really a wonderfully designed vehicle with world class ergonomics and usefulness, but it has been back about 8-10 times for lengthy warranty repairs in less than 40k miles. I am keeping the 4Runner for the occasional trip to the woods with the kids, but mostly to have a rugged and capable vehicle on reserve if I ever need it.
Yeah, plastic. What made it worse is that there's no oil pan gasket between the pan and the block. Just RTV-like seal. Guess, what, with time it leaks. Techs that replace them can't put them on well enough either, so they leak again. And again. And again.

After 5th time I was done. If I can't drive a new vehicle without having to check for major oil leaks every week, then it has to go.
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