02-28-2019, 12:17 AM
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I've been to Mule many times and they are pretty knowledgeable. I have debated many times adding a front bumper and winch but keep holding off. I really like the SSO and it's not to badly priced with a Comeup winch. Most weekends I am up in the mountains seeing what I can but I haven't had the need for a winch yet but I do carry tow straps and traction boards etc. CBI offers a front tow hitch mount that I find interesting as then I could use it on either end and not add much weight to the rig. Also, I think Mule will tell you if adding a bumper and winch to upgrade your suspension first or at the same time. If you go that route you will probably chew up most of your cash.
The topic of suspension is a whole other can of worms. I have looked at every make out there, like the Kings and BP51's but they are a lot of money. My suspension is working now and no really issues expecting wanting a different set up. For now I am keeping what I have but upgrading my tires. If you are looking to just get rid of nose dive during breaking, IMO I would say ride with what you have until you need to replace it. I think your 4R will take you where you want to go as it sits now, but again IMO. Good luck and see you out there!
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I talked with MULE a few months ago and they recommended a suspension upgrade and a front bumper, all in all parts and labor $10,000.- They were not joking. Suspension was top class they said, and I think the front bumper was the ARB with winch, lights, the whole deal.
I looked at Eibach suspension runs at about $700, simple and many say good quality and robust. No extra oil reservoirs, etc. I like it, will do more research.
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02-28-2019, 07:38 PM
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I have the 6112's in the front and thought they were an amazing upgrade for the money, I am running 275's with them and it looks perfect, I am going with 5160's and sway away 1.5" spring this spring or summer. for 275's all you need is the 6112 I plan on moving to 285's maybe in a year or so and am going to stick with 6112's, maybe just switch out springs and keep them at the lowest setting when I do that.
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03-01-2019, 12:14 PM
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I am running 265/70R17 stock rims. I like them and not planning to change. Would the 6112s still be ok with that setup ?
How do they compare with Eibach ?
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03-02-2019, 09:27 PM
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I am running 265/70R17 stock rims. I like them and not planning to change. Would the 6112s still be ok with that setup ?
How do they compare with Eibach ?
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Because of the way the Eibach shocks are tuned it’s a far better ride then the Bilstiens!
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03-02-2019, 11:23 PM
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03-04-2019, 04:45 PM
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Thank you all for the advice.
So far I am thinking hard about these 3:
(o) Victory 4x4 skid plates - I migh opt only for the TC skid and keep the front stock skid, more thinking needed about that
(o) Eibach sounds the best for what I am looking for.
(o) Victory 4x4 front bumper - I might wait in this for a bit.
Can anybody recommend a trustworthy mechanic/shop in the Seattle ares that can do the suspension / front bumper install ?
I can install the skid plates myself but don't have a garage or space to work on the front bumper, and I prefer a mechanic to install the suspension.
Thanks
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04-18-2019, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach
IMO, the best bang for the buck is our (Eibach) stage 1 kit. 4 springs and 4 shocks that carry a million warranty for about $575. Rides very well, too.
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I have a 2019 4Runner TRD ORP and I am going to be installing a Victory bumper (76lbs) winch (60lbs) and LED light (1-2lbs) total estimate 140lbs. I plan to upgrade the suspension to better handle the extra weight, but don’t need a lot of lift. Would the Eibach stage 1 kit be able to handle that and keep a OEM stance/rack?
The majority of driving will be on paved road, plan for vehicle is road trips to national parks with off roading and occasional weekend off roading trips.
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06-11-2019, 10:36 PM
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Update:
I bought the Victory 4x4 skid plates (steel), they are heavy and solid. Delivery took about 2 months.
I also installed a set of General Grabbers ATx.
Will wait on the bull bar.
Planning a trip to Moab in September (2019), will have 3 weeks to roam around, Zion, Arches, etc. Will see how much I can cover in 3 weeks, and how is my rig going to behave.
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06-12-2019, 10:27 AM
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Did you do the suspension? I ask because I am contemplating OME but not sure I will be able to upgrade tires until the winter. Was wondering if you did the lift before getting bigger tires. I don't want it to look like my 4Runner is skipping leg days at the gym. Any info is appreciated.
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06-12-2019, 09:35 PM
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Pretty much in the same boat. Bumper and winch to come. Looking at Eibach and Dobinson lift. Cant stand the money for King's and money issue and too much negative feedback on the Icons.
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06-23-2019, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SgtKeebler
I have a 2019 4Runner TRD ORP and I am going to be installing a Victory bumper (76lbs) winch (60lbs) and LED light (1-2lbs) total estimate 140lbs. I plan to upgrade the suspension to better handle the extra weight, but don’t need a lot of lift. Would the Eibach stage 1 kit be able to handle that and keep a OEM stance/rack?
The majority of driving will be on paved road, plan for vehicle is road trips to national parks with off roading and occasional weekend off roading trips.
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I have a similar plan, what did you go with?
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06-24-2019, 11:39 AM
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I have a similar plan, what did you go with?
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The front spring we include in our kit is 662lbs, so it can absolutely handle a winch and bumper. I have our setup with a Warn winch and bumper and it works great. Wife says it rides great so all is good
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06-24-2019, 12:05 PM
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Wondering if you found a good place to do the install? I am in the same boat as you, have a bumper but not space to install myself. Thanks.
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06-24-2019, 01:36 PM
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I have a similar plan, what did you go with?
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Haven’t made any decisions yet, but with the extra weight the nose dive is even worse. Definitely need an upgrade before roof rack and sliders.
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06-24-2019, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan at Eibach
IMO, the best bang for the buck is our (Eibach) stage 1 kit. 4 springs and 4 shocks that carry a million warranty for about $575. Rides very well, too.
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Do you have a link to this kit and price? For some reason I am not finding it. Looking to install a front steel bumper and thought maybe I should be doing this at same time. Does it work with KDDS as well? thanks.
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