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Old 07-15-2020, 04:04 PM #121
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I have a stock 2018 ORP with KDSS and 24k miles. I would like to improve the ride, reduce nose dive, and further reduce body roll (KDSS already does a pretty good job reducing body roll).

I’m leaning toward doing 5100s at all four corners, stock height setting, and leaving the stock springs.

Should this reasonably achieve what I’m after?

How long do the stock springs typically last? I assume there is no reason to replace them now. FWIW, I don’t regularly transport anything heavy in it.

Finally, and possibly most important, should this setup be safe from the dreaded KDSS lean? Stock, I don’t have any noticeable left-to-right lean.
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I have a stock 2018 ORP with KDSS and 24k miles. I would like to improve the ride, reduce nose dive, and further reduce body roll (KDSS already does a pretty good job reducing body roll).

I’m leaning toward doing 5100s at all four corners, stock height setting, and leaving the stock springs.

Should this reasonably achieve what I’m after?

How long do the stock springs typically last? I assume there is no reason to replace them now. FWIW, I don’t regularly transport anything heavy in it.

Finally, and possibly most important, should this setup be safe from the dreaded KDSS lean? Stock, I don’t have any noticeable left-to-right lean.
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2012 TE with kdss. I have Put around 90k miles on 5100s left at stock height on stock springs. The ride will definitely firm up. I’ve never noticed a Kdss lean that was anything to be concerned about.

I have 180k miles now And honestly the ride is still fine. I am however putting new suspension on very soon. I will be going with something other than 5100s though. Not that they’re bad, just looking to either swap in Pro suspension or a Dobinsons setup.
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I have a stock 2018 ORP with KDSS and 24k miles. I would like to improve the ride, reduce nose dive, and further reduce body roll (KDSS already does a pretty good job reducing body roll).

I’m leaning toward doing 5100s at all four corners, stock height setting, and leaving the stock springs.

Should this reasonably achieve what I’m after?

How long do the stock springs typically last? I assume there is no reason to replace them now. FWIW, I don’t regularly transport anything heavy in it.

Finally, and possibly most important, should this setup be safe from the dreaded KDSS lean? Stock, I don’t have any noticeable left-to-right lean.
The Bilstein 5100's will definitely improve your ride quality and comfort.

Typically you do not need to replace the coils, unless adding aftermarket weight.

The Bilstein 5100's are Ride-Height adjustable up front. They come out of the box at the OEM setting, but can be adjusted for a more level appearance. Upgrading the front coil may be option for providing more support against the Noise Dive and Body-Roll.

Every build is different, but usually if you do not have a lean now, then no lean after install. If you do have a lean now, then you may still have a lean after install. This can be resolved or minimized.

Hope this helps.

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Great News for Everyone Waiting to order Bilstein 5100's

In-Stock and Shipping Daily - Click Here

While Supplies Last

Complete Sets are already discounted for forum members.

Price includes shipping to Continental US and No Sales Tax outside NV.

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Great News for Everyone Waiting to order Bilstein 5100's

In-Stock and Shipping Daily - Click Here

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Complete Sets are already discounted for forum members.

Price includes shipping to Continental US and No Sales Tax outside NV.

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I have a 2020 4Runner Limited and am looking at these.

So if I want to level out the front, it looks like you set it at the first coil for the .85" lift?

If I do that, will I need to get an 4 wheel alignment done after?

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I have a 2020 4Runner Limited and am looking at these.

So if I want to level out the front, it looks like you set it at the first coil for the .85" lift?

If I do that, will I need to get an 4 wheel alignment done after?

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I just ordered a set of 5100s. I'm planning on setting the front at 1.75 and I want to lift the rear 1". Other than cornfed spacers, anyone try these rear coils?

Also anyone have bad experience with the cornfed spacers? I haven't seen a long term review yet.

Bilstein B12 1"
2003-2020 4Runner Bilstein B12 Special Series 1" Rear Lifted Coil Springs 36-281817

Eibach Pro-Lift Kit 1"
2010-2020 4Runner Eibach 1" Pro-Lift Kit Springs (Rear) E30-82-071-01-02
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I just ordered a set of 5100s. I'm planning on setting the front at 1.75 and I want to lift the rear 1". Other than cornfed spacers, anyone try these rear coils?

Also anyone have bad experience with the cornfed spacers? I haven't seen a long term review yet.

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Just did this exact set up with the Eibach rear coils.
Rides great, no complaints.
Skip the spacers if you have the money for coils.
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Just did this exact set up with the Eibach rear coils.
Rides great, no complaints.
Skip the spacers if you have the money for coils.
Definitely would rather do coils than spacers. Was the rear exactly an inch lift? Trying to get rid of the factory rake.
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I just ordered a set of 5100s. I'm planning on setting the front at 1.75 and I want to lift the rear 1". Other than cornfed spacers, anyone try these rear coils?

Also anyone have bad experience with the cornfed spacers? I haven't seen a long term review yet.

Bilstein B12 1"
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Eibach Pro-Lift Kit 1"
2010-2020 4Runner Eibach 1" Pro-Lift Kit Springs (Rear) E30-82-071-01-02
I had the same exact setup with the Bilstein 1” coils and 5100s set to 1.75 and I really liked the setup. It does Leave some rake however if you are looking for a “leveled” look. I no longer have this exact setup because I wanted to go bigger eventually.
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Definitely would rather do coils than spacers. Was the rear exactly an inch lift? Trying to get rid of the factory rake.

Before

RF 20”
LF 19 3/4”
RR 22”
LR 22”

After

RF 21 1/2”
LF 21 3/4”
RR 23 3/4”
LR 23 3/4”

So 1 3/4” is what the rear went up.

Still a bit of Rake, but I like the stance.
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Which clip position on the front did you go with?

2nd ring from the top. The 1.75” setting.
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