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Old 03-26-2019, 12:19 PM #16
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In Drive our T4 hesitates before doing a downshift. I run mine in S5 all the time. It helps it downshift more quickly without the lag.


Get a sprint booster. Instant response and downshift with no lag.


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Yeah, it's toast. Not really worth anything but scrap value now - PM me, I'd be happy to give you double scrap value for it. I'd use it for.......er....parts - yeah, parts!
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You're being way to concerned about nothing. I wouldn't make a habit out of it but it's just fine. It's a Toyota, it'll take a lot more then that to hurt it.
i know. i had to reread the post to make sure it didnt say -45f.
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The more you rev it the faster it warms up.
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It was about 45F this morning outside, though likely 55F in my garage, when I left for work. About 2 mins into my drive, with my coolant gauge about halfway up, I had to change lanes and accelerate pretty quickly and the truck downshifted from what I think was 3rd to first. This made the car rev up under load from about 3k to 5k before it upshifted to 2nd gear.

My first worry was revving like that while still sorta cold. Now obviously my coolant was warming so oil was flowing, so think I'd be ok, but just wanted folks thoughts here. I thought I read somewhere that modern engines pull a lot of timing because the exhaust gas tumble of nonvvti actually helps the car warm up the cats and internals faster, before it feeds timing advance back in once warm. But coulda misread.

My second worry was how unrefined the 1GR-FE feels while at that half-warmed stage. It vibrated more than when warmed up, and sounded a bit louder too. Anyone know if that's likely just the car pulling timing while cold to protect itself better, mixed with cold exhaust noises vs a warm, mellow exhaust? Or do I need to be pretty concerned?

Last - anyone else do this accidentally or intentionally? Was it a nonissue for yall lile I hope?

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Thanks!

And for all the jokesters - old jokes don't get cool suddenly.

It was more the rough sound that bothered me, and the coolant gauge being only about halfway up, than the actual temperature.

I mean I go to 12,000+ ft altitude regularly in Sierra, and have left my car at 10-20F plenty of times (ok, my old 3rd gen not this one yet)... and have been in -43F temps in Quebec before.

I was just surprised how rough it revved above 4k.

I def think the ECU pulled timing and that's why it felt rough. But glad to know it'll be ok and that oil had plenty of time to circulate.

I was a sprint booster hater before, not so much now. It's a very mushy pedal, and overreacts sometimes.
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In case anyone was curious, here's what my tuning friend reminded me.

I totally forgot about open loop fueling.

(1/3)Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. Most engine damage happens immediately after starting the car, especially if it has been sitting a long time so all the
(2/3)oil drains back down. By the time it is half warm, it should be fine. Almost all modern engines run rich and adjust timing when cold (until the ECU enters
(3/3)closed loop operation, which usually takes a while), and that makes it run rough, so it was probably that.
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You're a weird dude.
Best if you trade it in for a Honda Fit and be done with it.
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Funny thread. Try having to floor it when its -45C out and the motor is cold, but you gotta floor it because your about to be rammed by some idiot. The motor makes a loud pause followed by a grunting type of noise..the transmission..makes a sound like impending death..

Yet truck still runs fine..
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You're a weird dude.
Best if you trade it in for a Honda Fit and be done with it.
Not as weird as yo uglyass momma.
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Not as weird as yo uglyass momma.
Gotta love internet tough guys.
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Gotta love internet tough guys.
Lol is that what it's called when I ask you to send location and you say

"You are not worth the lawsuit."

Btw as tuning becomes an increasing topic on these forums, b/w OrangeVirus and others, open and closed loop fueling will be important to know about.

You're never supposed to log post-tune while your car's still in open loop.

But it's cool. I'll see you around Buttermilk Road, MTN ADV dickhead with nothing useful to say.
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